Steering Setup for 33hp Johnson

cskin07

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I have a 66'-69' 33HP johnson on a 15ft tri-hull but its not a runabout style its like a jon boat except fiberglass and my motor is setup for the a pulley system i was just wondering some basic facts on this system and where and what to buy when buying the cables and controls for this motor and also maybe some designs on a small side console that I could make myself! Thanks in advance!
 

jay_merrill

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While many people think of pulley steering as extraordinarily dangerous, I'm old enough to remember when it was the only system available. Properly maintained, they are fine and I never knew anyone who crashed a boat because of one.

That said, they are rarely used these days. What you are more likely to find in any boat you buy is a "push/pull" type cable/tube assembly. Some people call them "teleflex systems," because Teleflex Marine is one of the major manufacturers of the system. You'll probably also find that its very hard to find parts for a pully/wire rope type steering wheel. I often see pulleys, clamps, springs, etc. for these systems, but not the steering wheels or steering wheel parts.

All is not lost, however, because there are a couple of easy and relatively inexpensive ways to use a teleflex style steering system with your Johnson. One is to install a bracket/clamp assembly on your transom, which holds the stationary part of the cable in place. This allows the inner portion (the push/pull part) to be bolted to a bracket on your motor. This method is inexpensive and effective, but it does have one drawback - the range of motion when tilting the motor up can sometimes be restricted because of the transom bracket.

Another possibility is to use a tilt tube adapter. There are probably a few manufacturers of these adapters, but the Ezy-Glide, Inc. is the only one that I know of for your engine size. They call their product an "Ezy-Glide Universal Engine Connection Kit." This product is rated for outboards up to 40hp and works quite well. I've used one myself and liked it. I also have a larger version of the same product on my current boat, which has a 1972 Johnson 65 hp engine.

To see one, go to page 384 at the following link (Donovan Marine):

http://www.donovanmarine.com/catalog/Donovan2009.pdf

You might also try right here at iboats - I know they sell other Ezy-Glide products, but I don't see the adapter on the iboats marine store web site. I just made a call to iboats, however, and the salesperson said that he could probably order it from Ezy-Glide. In order to help with that process, I just put a call in to Ezy-Glide at iboats request. I ended up having to leave a message, but as soon as I get a part number from Ezy-Glide, I will pass it on to both you and iboats.

BTW, this product has been described by some distributors as being for use only with boats that have a port side cable run. In my application, I needed a starboard side run and had no problem flipping the tube in the bracket. The trick to doing so, is to remove a zerk type grease fitting that is located in the middle of the tube. From there, the two nuts on the tube are removed and the tube can be reversed, so that the threaded portion of it, faces the starboard side. Once reassembled, the zerk fitting can be screwed back into the tube.
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: Steering Setup for 33hp Johnson

it is a great system, this is the 3 rd boat i did with the system.

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coolguy147

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it is a great system, this is the 3 rd boat i did with the system.

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on the control box what does it say on it? does it say pimplex im not real good at reading cursive but i think it saids that
 

tmcalavy

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It says Simplex...generally paired with an Evinrude. Shipmaster was the brand paired with Johnsons.
 

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It says Simplex...generally paired with an Evinrude. Shipmaster was the brand paired with Johnsons.

Yup. They are, however, identical with the exception of the placard.

TD, if I may - I've seen the pic of your setup a couple of times and I have a suggestion. If you have not bolted your tube adapter through your transom, rather than to use the small screws that come with it, I would. That adapter is made to have the motor's transom clamps assist in holding it in place. This is particularly important in your installation because you have your engine raised in relation to the permanent part of the transom.

Having had a "little adventure" in hitting something with my 65hp Johnson, with which I use a similar tube adapter, I can say with some certainty that if you have a similar experience, your motor is going to take a dunk, Worse yet, it might end up in the boat with you. By bolting the adapter, you will enable the plate to stay firmly attached to the transom, and the steering arm will prevent the engine from either dropping very far, or moving forward.

Frankly, before it happened to me, I would have never thought of this. My adapter is made just like yours but is heavier and is bolted to the upper transom bracket bolts for my motor. I have put alot of money and time in my "ole Johnson" and feel very lucky that this sytem prevented both its demise and injury to me!

Nice looking installation though - I'm sort of thinking of a smaller boat to go along with a project boat that I now have going, so that I can save on gas for short, inland trips. I'm thinking that a 14' or so tinny, with one of my Johnson 33s and a stick steer system, would be ideal.
 

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Re: Steering Setup for 33hp Johnson

Wondering what basic cables do I need to use with the steering system? also do you have to use a specific control? this is my first boat building project hopefully will have pics up tomorrow
 

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Wondering what basic cables do I need to use with the steering system? also do you have to use a specific control? this is my first boat building project hopefully will have pics up tomorrow

Take a look at this link - it should give you some ideas. Note that the cables come in different lengths to accomdate most boats/steering positions. If the stick steer is not applicable to your boat, you can look at other pages that show the same cable system with standard steering wheels. The second link will help with that.

http://www.iboats.com/Boat_Parts_Ac...751--keywords.ezy-glide--**********.347589473

http://www.iboats.com/Boat_Steering...8893751--**********.347589473--view_id.217122
 

tashasdaddy

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Jay that transom was solid lumber, i had to rabit the top, to get under the flange, thus when i added the the mounting plate, i had to set it lower. poor planing.

I regret, but someone offer me just too much $$ for the rig, and it found a new home. he loves the boat as i did.
 

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I have received a reply from Ezy-Glide in regard to the Universal Engine Connection Kit. Therre are two versions - fresh water and salt water. The fresh water kit is EG-LPK and the salt water kit is EG-LSWK

BTW - the folks at Ezy-Glide gave me their web addy (www.ezyglide.com) - on it, the info about this system being for port side steering cable runs only is mentioned. Since I have successfully used the system with a starboard side run, I'm a bit curious and will ask them what their reasoning is. I'll report back when I have an answer.
 

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As requested by iboats, I have just provided them with the part numbers for the engine connection kits.

While the first person that I spoke to at iboats felt that they could easily order the kits fro Ezy-Glide, the person that I just spoke to, is not sure. That being the case, I would try iboats, but you can always make the purchase directly from Ezy_glide, if you want one.
 

cskin07

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Re: Steering Setup for 33hp Johnson

Wondering what setup do you use with the ezy glide system?
 

cskin07

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Wondering if a dual cable steering bracket will do anything for me?
 

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Or you could just use the cable/pulley system that is on your boat...check the pulleys, replace if worn, then install new cable...available at the big box stores. A steering wheel and helm/console aren't too hard to add...there are posts in the restoration forum about doing that.
 

dthrckt

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Re: Steering Setup for 33hp Johnson

it is a great system, this is the 3 rd boat i did with the system.

I'm leaning toward the stick steering for my project. Mostly to save space but also to avoid building a console.

I'm stuck trying to decide how much space there should be between the throttle/shifter and the steering.

I want each stick to be as far from the center as is practical so they're out of the way.

But...I've never used stick steering and I'm concerned that if I make it too far from the centerline it will be difficult to push/pull the stick. Also might be tiring to cruise for very long with an arm oustretched.

Can anyone that has set this type of setup comment on that?
 
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