Still stumped by intermitten extreme power loss

warstoryz

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First things first, thank you to everyone who has posted their ideas and suggetions to help figure out my power loss problem with my Johnson 115 4 cyl. made in 1973. Here is where I am now. CARBS rebuilt, FUEL PUMP replaced, new plugs, watched the engine run at night in the dark but could not detect a spark or an arc from any of the coils shorting out, tried a different Power Pack, different Fuel, Result = Power Loss continues.
Here is how the thing goes from ramp to ramp, maybe someone else has some ideas?
We start the engine and it idles fine, but as soon as I shift into gear, I can tell it is only running on 1 or 2 cylinders. Problem is that it only does it in the water when pushing the boat, so checking things like plug wires etc, seems very dangerous to do while the motor is running in gear.
Anyway, we travel at 6 MPH out of the dock area and onto the open water that leads to the bay. I slowly give the engine more gas, but even at full throttle, we are barely moving faster than if we were paddling a canoe. We continue at this much reduced level of power for perhaps another 10 minutes, then the engine suddenly comes to life and in seconds we are on plane. The difference in power is much more than double. I don't know if it is possible to run on one cylinder, but it feels like that much of a difference from one to the other. We go full tilt for about ten seconds, but then it dies down again. We putt along for another hundred yards or so and WHAM, off we go again, full speed ahead, flying over the water, but then.... it dies back again,...... 50 yards more the putt putt speed , then all of a sudden she roars to life and off we go like a water rocket again.
This all takes place in about the first twenty to thirty minutes on the water, after that , the rest of the day is perfect and so is the performance of the 115 Johnson. Three hours later we fly back in from the bay without a hickup. At the no wake zone we cut the power back and run at 6MPH for the last 300 yards until we reach the ramps.
If not for the first twenty or thirty minutes, I'd say the boat ran just great, but I am afraid we will be way out there in bigger water someday and whatever is causing this power loss will take ahold of us completely and not let go. If that were to happen, I don't know if we could make it back if the weather turned on us out there. Any ideas ? John
 

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Re: Still stumped by intermitten extreme power loss

Still stumped, I guess so, that is a heck of a thing to troubleshoot. You will most likely have to do it in a test tank where you can get all around it. I'll have to think on this one for awhile, but I make you no promises.
 

TD_Maker

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Re: Still stumped by intermitten extreme power loss

I do have a suggestion. I once had a Johnson 115 which had a similar problem. VERY CAREFULLY check the small metal pins in the brown connector for the coils. I stated in an earlier posting that the 4 cyln. OMC engines had a nasty habit of grabbing wires and such with the engine cowl when removing or reinstalling. Sometimes, a connector will come loose and short out or not make a connection a weird times. It is a long shot, but you could find the root of your problem.
 

warstoryz

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Re: Still stumped by intermitten extreme power loss

Hi. Appreciate the idea, but i'm not sure i know what you mean by the brown pins in the coils. My engine is a 1973, and i don't see any pins on any of the 4 coils. Maybe I am looking at the wrong place?
 

TD_Maker

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Re: Still stumped by intermitten extreme power loss

Does your motor have 4 coils? if so, follow the (Orange??) wire coming from each coils on each bank, and they should lead you to the brown colored connector I am speaking about. There will be one of these connectors on each side of the motor. Each coil will supply one wire to this connector. The other end of this connector will lead to the power packs. Generally, this connector is held tightly against the block with a spring clip. (I am doing this from memory!)

I have seen these little pins (Inside the connector) become bent or corroded which will not allow the connector to connect solidly. I have even bypassed the connector completely and wired the coil/power pack wires directly to each other with a good solder joint and heat shrink tubing.

I hope this helps you. I spent hours and hours on this problem before finding out the cause. When removing or installing the motor cowl, the cowl latches on these motors have a tendency to grab at wiring (Spark plugs, coils, etc...) and severely weaken the connections. While you are at it, check the spark plug wires too!
 
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