Still won't idle in gear

DT35

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My 1958 super sea horse 35hp still will not stay running while in gear at idle. Any ideas how to fix this?
 

MaPaHa

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Will it run ok on a water hose and muffs? If so, then it doesn't have enough power to overcome the water pressure from the exhaust being a couple of feet under water. I've had several motors over the years that would run fine out of water on a hose but would stumble, die, sputter and otherwise have a hard time staying running until you can get it going. Start with the basics of compression, spark test etc. Spray some engine cleaner into the carbs while its in the lake at idle or slight high idle. The carb that doesn't lose as many rpm's when you spray it, is the cylinders you are after. The carb and cylinders that bog down the most are the ones hitting the hardest.
 

DT35

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It runs fine at idle in a barrel in nuetral but when in gear I have to advance the throttle to keep it going. If I go to idle in gear it will quit.
 
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NicoPags

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how do you idle In gear DT? You mean it dies down when throttle is not advanced or at its lowest? I would still stick with MaPaHa and do compression and spark test. Its struggling when there is back pressure on open water which isn't present in a tank or muffs. Could be as simple as seafoaming the carbs but first determine you have good compression and spark
 

flyingscott

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What are your RPMs in gear at an idle, how does it run wide open. The exhaust back pressure should not be an issue because at an idle the exhaust reliefs are being used unless those are plugged. Otherwise do a cylinder drop test it sounds like you might be on one cylinder but we need more information.
 

oldboat1

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Carb cleaning is routine, if that hasn't been done yet. Take it off, disassemble and clean it. Get a kit, replace the welch plugs after cleaning passages (best to soak, then clean all passages with a piece of mono, spray carb cleaner to flush).
 

DT35

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I'm not sure if my RPMs are. I've only been running it in a barrel right now. When I say idling year I just mean being in gear at low RPM with the remote throttle all the way back it will die.
 

DT35

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Cleaned and checked everything out. Everything seems to be in order. It just seems like the idle is just set too low.
 

NicoPags

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try running some seafoam through the system. add some right in the gas and also spray some directing into the carb while you have it running in neutral at a higher idle rpm. Also, could very well be the settings as well but try the seafoam to flush everything out.

But to add to flyingScott, when my 35 hp (1978) had the same symptom, I was only running of 1 cylinder. You couldn't tell until a load was put on the prop
 
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