Strange 70's 40 HP from yardsale.

reelfishin

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I picked up what appeared to be a 1973 40 HP motor at a yard sale this weekend. It's decals looked to be the same as my 1973 and it has good compression. The first thing I noticed was that the motor bracket looked odd, it had no bolt holes only two clamps, and I had assumed that the swivel pin was just seized. Once I got it home and started to work at getting the swivel pin free, I noticed two things, for one, the add on shaft length adapter is about 2 inches longer than the one on my other motor, making this about a 22' shaft length, second, when I took the lower pivot shaft and mount off I realized that the pivot shaft is D shaped, as is the bushing. The pivot pin can't pivot since it sits in a fixed hole. There is no steer tube, no tilt hinge either. It hangs with two clamps, can't steer and can't tilt. I put it back together and hung it on stand and after cleaning the points and a fresh tank of fuel it runs good with no issues.
My question is, what could this be for? It's obviously made for a fixed install with no trim or tilt ability and no steering. It also has a rather large 4 blade prop on it. It don't look to have been used in quite some time and the only other boat items the seller had was a few old life saver rings and some very early cloth style life vests. No boat or other motor parts. The controls are older twin stick controls, all electrical is on the motor, and the cables are pretty short under 8', so the driver most likely was pretty close to the motor if not directly in reach of it to reach the starter button and kill switch on the motor. It has no recoil start option.

I pretty much just bought it for parts but it turned out to be good runner.
There is no tag on the bracket and the freeze plug has only a serial number, no model number. I looked at each models parts list but I don't see any with a different bracket, steer pin, or bushing either. The motor mount and bracket are clean and look factory but they are a slightly different shade of blue than the rest of the motor. At a quick look it really don't look any different than my other 40 hp other than the lack of movement.
It has a solid aluminum block bolted in place of the latch and tilt pin fixing the tilt position permanently and preventing movement. There is also no tiller handle, so steering was not an option by normal means. By the added length I'd say sail boat but even a sail boat would need to steer it's kicker motor?
 

JB

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Re: Strange 70's 40 HP from yardsale.

Hmmmmm. Could be a sailboat special. . .longer shaft, no steering.

Got a pic?
 

tmcalavy

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Re: Strange 70's 40 HP from yardsale.

Post a photo or two and any numbers you can find on it.
 

freddyray21

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Re: Strange 70's 40 HP from yardsale.

agree sounds like something set up for a macgregor
 

reelfishin

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Re: Strange 70's 40 HP from yardsale.

I was asking about it today at a local dealer and they seemed to think it was a 'box motor' for a clam boat or something.
The only numbers or markings I can find are on the freeze plug, there's a larger J&L and under that the SP-J000036 The freeze plug is anodized in gold not silver like on most motors.
The dealer seems to think it may have been set up that way by the boat builder aftermarket or maybe special ordered. He didn't seem too surprised when I mentioned it had no steering or tilt. He did say that usually they were three cylinder motors, 55 to 70 hp which had no tilt or steering.
I'll get a pic if I take the steer tube back off. What it looks like they did was grind a flat on the steering pin and press in a bushing with one thicker, flat side. The dealer seamed to think the whole bracket assembly may be aftermarket to some extent. I assume the J&L logo on the freeze plus is the manufacturer of the freeze plug since I've seen that logo before.
The block that is locking the tilt function can be removed, all I'd need to do is put back a reverse lockout lever and trim pin. The odd length will most likely mean I need to find a shorter adapter and drive shaft or raise it up on the transom if I decide to use it.
 

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Re: Strange 70's 40 HP from yardsale.

I'll bet it went in an engine well in some sort of fishing boat. Steering was done with a separate rudder. I've never seen an engine like that, but that would be about the only thing that made sense. Interesting find.
 

reelfishin

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Re: Strange 70's 40 HP from yardsale.

I'll bet it went in an engine well in some sort of fishing boat. Steering was done with a separate rudder. I've never seen an engine like that, but that would be about the only thing that made sense. Interesting find.

That makes sense, there are a few guys still running boats with the outboard mounted mid ship in a well or box. But most use 65 or 70 hp three cylinder motors. They don't steer with a rudder though, they usually have a console mounted right over the well or box with a steering wheel or tiller. I'm not sure if the motor can tilt any or not. Most are trawlers or net fisherman.
I suppose that maybe some sort of sail boat was rigged up this way? Maybe a motor meant to be added to a boat that already had a rudder in the water.

For my purposes, I think I can get away with just installing a stock steering sleeve or bushing. I don't think the flatted shaft will matter much if I use it in a round bushing.
 
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