Tach

noah4009

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I have a 1971 Chrysler 55hp. What wires do I connect to a tach? There is a tach on the boat with a black and white wire but not hooked up. Also if one wire is a ground then what do I ground it too?
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: Tach

If you have a tach in the dash and the engine came with the boat, then it is a pretty good chance that it is the correct tach--Would be nice if it were a Chrysler tach, but you can't have everything.

You should have a cable coming from the engine. Two wires connect to the two "M" terminals, usually white and blue. If you follow them back to the engine terminal board, you will see two (usually brown) wires coming out from under the flywheel and they have larger terminations on them than the others. This is the stop circuit and works by shorting the points together when the switch is turned off. Connect the white wire to one of the "M" terminals and the black to ground. You can use the black ground wire in the cable or you can use any other ground under the dash. It doesn't matter, they all go back to the negative on the battery.

If the tach has a switch on the back, set it to "1" or 1 power pulse per revolution.

If the tach does not work, that's the reason it was disconnected.

Oops--That's for a magneto ignition. If you have coils on the side of the engine, (battery, points and coil) run a wire from the negative terminal of one coil up to the tach --purple is usually unused and works. That will give you a signal when the engine is running. If that doesn't work, then try connecting to one A/C terminal on the rectifier. If that don't work, the tach is either broken or incorrect for that application.
 

noah4009

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Re: Tach

If you have a tach in the dash and the engine came with the boat, then it is a pretty good chance that it is the correct tach--Would be nice if it were a Chrysler tach, but you can't have everything.

You should have a cable coming from the engine. Two wires connect to the two "M" terminals, usually white and blue. If you follow them back to the engine terminal board, you will see two (usually brown) wires coming out from under the flywheel and they have larger terminations on them than the others. This is the stop circuit and works by shorting the points together when the switch is turned off. Connect the white wire to one of the "M" terminals and the black to ground. You can use the black ground wire in the cable or you can use any other ground under the dash. It doesn't matter, they all go back to the negative on the battery.

If the tach has a switch on the back, set it to "1" or 1 power pulse per revolution.

If the tach does not work, that's the reason it was disconnected.

Oops--That's for a magneto ignition. If you have coils on the side of the engine, (battery, points and coil) run a wire from the negative terminal of one coil up to the tach --purple is usually unused and works. That will give you a signal when the engine is running. If that doesn't work, then try connecting to one A/C terminal on the rectifier. If that don't work, the tach is either broken or incorrect for that application.

Hi Frank
The white wire coming from the tach was connected to the white wire from the harness with all the wires that come from the engine. But the black wire was not. MY ignition switch does have 2 m terminals on it. The tach looks like it originally came with boat. mount on dash. It sticks out about 2 inches from dash as does the speedometer. My engine is battery, points, coil. I am telling you all this hoping you have a better understanding of my situation. The wires in the harness are Yellow-start, purple-gen, White-tach, Green-choke, orange-heat, red-battery, blue-igniton, and black-gound. Should I hook the white wire from tach to white in harness that says tach, should I hook black from tach to black ground wire from harness. This may sound like a dump question, but I want to be sure. Also how about the speedometer? Can you give me help on this also? I noticed a cable coming from there going into the back of boat in water. With some white plastic type of cone or angle piece on end. Is that for the speedometer?
 

arsenalpsu

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Re: Tach

I have a 1970 chrysler 55hp, model 557HA, does anyone know what tach would be the best for this engine and where I could get it?

Thanks
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: Tach

The white wire is correct for your application. On your engine, It does not connect to the ignition switch because the blue wire supplies power to the points and coils. Turning off the switch stops power from the "I" terminal (blue wire). If you trace the white wire, you will see that it ultimately connects to one of the coil negative terminals. Black on the tach will go to ground.

There are no stupid questions--only stupid people!

Nah--Just having fun with you. Yes! The black tube going back to the transom is the speedometer tube. The speedometer is a specialized pressure gauge. The white plastic thing is an impact tube and uses water pressure to compress the air in the black tube. This straightens a bent Bourdon tube within the gauge. The tube is connected by levers or gearing to the needle. The faster you go, the more pressure, the more the Bourdon tube straightens and the higher the needle reads. The impact tube projects at a slight angle from the transom so that the hole is roughly parallel to the water direction. It is spring loaded in some manner and will pop up if you hit anything with it. So be sure it is in the down position. These speedometers are notoriously inaccurate and usually read a bit high. Their main use would be to guesstimate speed for say, recreational water skiing or approximate time to a destination. Most do not read below 10 MPH so are useless in no-wake or 6 MPH speed zones. They do look nice on the dash and make a complete package with tach, voltmeter, and hourmeter, or matching compass, and that's pretty much the only reason to have one.

Dang, Arsenalpsu--I really need to get a model number chart. I can't correlate model numbers with engine years and equipment.

But if you have standard points and coil ignition with the coils mounted on the side of the engine, then any standard 2 cycle tach will work--ie. Teleflex, Tiny Tach, Faria, etc. Buy them on line at iboats or at your local marina supply store.
 

noah4009

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Re: Tach

Thanks Frank you are a big help. I will get back to you this weekend. should have LU on then.
 

noah4009

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Re: Tach

Dang, Arsenalpsu--I really need to get a model number chart. I can't correlate model numbers with engine years and equipment.

Hi Frank
On maxrules.com under tech specs, they have model number charts. I stumbled on it. Just trying to give back. I just copied and paste this. Its for Chrysler. They have other manufacturers, years and HP

MODEL YEAR CHART

50 to 85 HP


HP YEAR MODEL
50 1981 507H1A
50 1981 507B1A
50 1982 507H2B
50 1982 507B2B
50 1983 507H2C
50 1983 507B2C
50 1983 507H3D
50 1983 507B3D
50 1983 507R3E
50 1983 503H3A
50 1983 503B3A
50 1983 507H4B
50 1983 507H4E
50 1983 507C4E
50 1983 507S4A
50 1983 507S4B
50 1983 503C4B
50 1983 503H4B
50 1965 50521
50 1965 50522
50 1965 50531
50 1965 50532
50 1965 50561
50 1965 50562
50 1965 50571
50 1965 50572
50 1966 50621
50 1966 50622
50 1966 50631
50 1966 50632
50 1966 50661
50 1966 50662
50 1966 50671
50 1966 50672
55 1968 55418
55 1968 55428
55 1968 55518
55 1968 55528
55 1968 55618
55 1968 55628
55 1968 55718
55 1968 55728
55 1969 5545
55 1969 5546
55 1969 5555
55 1969 5556
55 1969 5565
55 1969 5566
55 1969 5575
55 1969 5576
55 1969 5581
55 1969 5582
55 1969 5591
55 1969 5592
55 1970 554HA
55 1970 554BA
55 1970 555HA
55 1970 555BA
55 1970 556HA
55 1970 556BA
55 1970 557HA
55 1970 557BA
55 1970 558HA
55 1970 558BA
55 1970 559HA
55 1970 559BA
55 1971 554HC
55 1971 554BC
55 1971 555HC
55 1971 555BC
55 1971 556HC
55 1971 556BC
55 1971 557HC
55 1971 557BC
55 1971 558HC
55 1971 558BC
55 1971 559HC
55 1971 559BC
55 1971 551HA
55 1972 551 HA
55 1972 554HD
55 1972 554BD
55 1972 555HD
55 1972 555BD
55 1972 556HD
55 1972 556BD
55 1972 557HD
55 1972 557BD
55 1972 558HD
55 1972 558BD
55 1972 559HD
55 1972 559BD
55 1972 554HE
55 1972 554BE
55 1972 555HE
55 1972 555BE
55 1972 556HE
55 1972 556BE
55 1972 557HE
55 1972 557BE
55 1972 558HE
55 1972 558BE
55 1972 559HE
55 1972 559BE
55 1973 554HF
55 1973 554BF
55 1973 555HF
55 1973 555BF
55 1973 556HF
55 1973 557HF
55 1973 558HF
55 1973 558BF
55 1973 559HF
55 1974 554HG
55 1974 554BG
55 1974 555HG
55 1974 555BG
55 1974 556HG
55 1974 556BG
HP YEAR MODEL
55 1974 557HG
55 1974 557BG
55 1974 558HG
55 1974 558BG
55 1974 559HG
55 1974 559BG
55 1975 554HG
55 1975 554BG
55 1975 555HG
55 1975 555BG
55 1975 556HG
55 1975 556BG
55 1975 557HG
55 1976 558HG
55 1976 558BG
55 1976 559HG
55 1976 559BG
55 1978 559HK
55 1978 559BK
55 1977 558HJ
55 1977 558BJ
55 1977 559HJ
55 1977 559BJ
55 1979 558H9L
55 1979 558B9L
55 1979 559H9L
55 1979 559B9L
55 1980 559H0M
55 1980 559B0M
55 1980 559H0N
55 1981 559H1N
55 1981 559B1N
55 1982 559H2P
55 1982 559B2P
55 1983 559H3R
55 1983 559B3R
55 1983 559V3S
55 1967 55721
55 1967 55722
55 1967 55731
55 1967 55732
55 1967 55761
55 1967 55762
55 1967 55771
55 1967 55772
60 1974 608HA
60 1974 608BA
60 1974 609HA
60 1974 609BA
60 1975 608HA
60 1975 608BA
60 1975 609HA
60 1975 609BA
60 1976 608HA
60 1976 608BA
60 1976 609HA
60 1976 609BA
60 1984 606H4A
60 1984 608H4C
60 1984 608V4A
65 1977 659HA
65 1977 659BA
65 1978 659HB
65 1978 659BB
70 1969 7061
70 1969 7062
70 1969 7071
70 1969 7072
70 1970 706HA
70 1970 706BA
70 1970 707HA
70 1970 707BA
70 1971 706HC
70 1971 706BC
70 1971 706HD
70 1971 706BD
70 1971 707HC
70 1971 707BC
70 1971 707HD
70 1971 707BD
70 1972 706HE
70 1972 706BE
70 1972 707HE
70 1972 707BE
70 1973 706HF
70 1973 706BF
70 1973 707HF
70 1973 707BF
70 1979 709H9A
70 1979 709B9A
70 1979 T700H9A
70 1979 T700B9A
70 1979 709H0AN
70 1979 709B0AN
75 1968 75618
75 1968 75638
75 1968 75648
75 1968 75718
75 1968 75738
75 1974 756HA
75 1974 756BA
75 1974 757HA
75 1974 757BA
75 1975 756BA
75 1975 756HB
75 1975 756BB
75 1975 757HA
75 1975 757BA
75 1975 757HB
75 1975 757BB
75 1976 756HB
75 1976 756BB
75 1976 757HB
75 1976 757BB
75 1976 756HC
75 1976 756BC
75 1976 757HC
75 1976 757BC
75 1977 756HC
HP YEAR MODEL
55 1977 558HH
55 1977 558BH
55 1977 559HH
55 1977 559BH
55 1978 558HK
55 1978 558BK
75 1977 756BC
75 1977 757BC
75 1978 757HD
75 1978 757BD
75 1979 757H9E
75 1979 757B9E
75 1979 S759H9A
75 1979 P759H9A
75 1979 T750H9A
75 1979 T750B9A
75 1980 756H0F
75 1980 756B0F
75 1980 758H0B
75 1980 758B0B
75 1980 754H0B
75 1980 754B0B
75 1981 756H1G
75 1981 756B1G
75 1981 758H1C
75 1981 758B1C
75 1982 756H2H
75 1982 756B2H
75 1982 758H2D
75 1982 758B2D
75 1982 756H2J
75 1982 756B2J
75 1982 758H2E
75 1982 758B2E
75 1983 756H3K
75 1983 756B3K
75 1983 756R3L
75 1983 758H3F
75 1983 758B3F
75 1984 756H4L
75 1984 756S4A
75 1984 756S4B
75 1984 756S4C
75 1984 758H4G
75 1984 758C4G
75 1966 75661
75 1966 75662
75 1966 75671
75 1966 75672
75 1967 75761
75 1967 75762
75 1967 75763
75 1967 75764
75 1967 75771
75 1967 75772
75 1967 75773
75 1967 75774
80 1965 80561
80 1965 80571
80 1965 80572
85 1969 8561
85 1969 8562
85 1969 8571
85 1969 8572
85 1970 856HA
85 1970 856BA
85 1970 857HA
85 1970 857BA
85 1971 856HC
85 1971 856BC
85 1971 857BB
85 1971 857HC
85 1971 857BC
85 1972 856HD
85 1972 856BD
85 1972 857HD
85 1972 857BD
85 1973 856HE
85 1973 856BE
85 1973 857HE
85 1973 857BE
85 1977 859HA
85 1977 859BA
85 1978 859H8A
85 1978 859B8A
85 1978 857H8F
85 1978 857B8F
85 1979 857H9G
85 1979 857B9G
85 1979 859H9B
85 1979 859B9B
85 1979 T850H9A
85 1979 T850B9A
85 1979 851H9A
85 1979 851B9A
85 1979 S855H9A
85 1979 P855H9A
85 1980 850H0A
85 1980 856H0H
85 1980 856B0H
85 1980 858H0C
85 1980 858B0C
85 1981 850H1C
85 1981 856H1J
85 1981 856B1J
85 1981 858H1D
85 1981 858B1D
85 1982 858H3G
85 1982 858H2F
85 1982 858H2E
85 1982 858B2E
85 1983 858B2F
85 1983 856H2K
85 1983 856B2K
85 1984 858H4H
85 1984 858C4H




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arsenalpsu

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Re: Tach

My 1970 chrusysler 55hp has a battery, points and coil ignition, what setting should the tach be set at? (has a 1 thru 6 selection) Thanks.
 
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