Take a look at this please

Larry E

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I am working my way through the electrical system on my 74 Seaswirl. I am having an issue with the starter cranking with the key in the momentary position but then when the key is released the starter keeps working. I have to remove the battery cable to get it to stop. When I reinstall the battery cable the starter does not respond till I turn the key to the momentary position on the ignition switch... SOOO needless to say I need to work this out but my mind is becoming boggled with all the posibilities. I have the Ignition switch hooked up per the picture of what it was like when I bought the boat. There are two wires on the Battery terminal (orange and red). However the great wiring diagram that one of you gave me shows only the orange wire being hooked to the battery terminal with the red going to the amp meter. SO if you have an opinion about this I am wanting to listen. Like I said this a 1974 Seaswirl with a GM 2.5 motor.

Larry EInstrument panel before 002.jpgwire.jpg
 

NYBo

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Re: Take a look at this please

Sounds like the starter solenoid is sticking on or possibly wired incorrectly (although I can't figure out how at the moment :redface:)
 

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Re: Take a look at this please

Have you checked the starter relay? If it is sticking this can happen. A sometimes works trick is to thump the relay when it is sticking. If the starter stops turning. Then bingo. Otherwise the safest way would be with a multimeter.
 

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Re: Take a look at this please

With out knowing a good bit more I can only think of two things and 1 is the solenoid is sticking and is a some what common problem or 2 when the key is turned its setting up some sort of a holding circuit due to a miswire and that should be easy enough to sort out. I would disconnest the power lead going to the starter so it doesn't get burned out, and then disconnect the positive volt side from the solenoid field coil and hook one of the volt meter leads to the negative side of the solenoid field coil and the other to the positive side that was disconnected and try the key and see what it dose if it turns the voltage on and off like it should then you know its the solenoid, if it turns on and stays on its a miswire some place feeding back through the key switch. Its a place to start.
 

Larry E

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Re: Take a look at this please

With out knowing a good bit more I can only think of two things and 1 is the solenoid is sticking and is a some what common problem or 2 when the key is turned its setting up some sort of a holding circuit due to a miswire and that should be easy enough to sort out. I would disconnest the power lead going to the starter so it doesn't get burned out, and then disconnect the positive volt side from the solenoid field coil and hook one of the volt meter leads to the negative side of the solenoid field coil and the other to the positive side that was disconnected and try the key and see what it dose if it turns the voltage on and off like it should then you know its the solenoid, if it turns on and stays on its a miswire some place feeding back through the key switch. Its a place to start.

Thanks fellows that is a lot of good suggestions. I will let you know.
Larry E
 

Larry E

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Re: Take a look at this please

One more question before I get started. I replaced the neutral (remote) switch in the throttle. There are five wires in the harness and two of them are white which I suspect sends power to through the system in neutral. Can these two white wires be crossed or does it matter which matches up to the white wires in the mating harness? DOES that make sense?

Larry E
 

Larry E

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Problem solved

Problem solved

I solved my problem with the previous post about my starter not disengaging when the key was released. YOU DO NOT want to paint your motor and then bolt the slave solenoid to the block with the paint insulating the solenoid from the block which is the ground. The bracket that you bolt to the solenoid to the block is the GROUND and it will not work with no ground...:p:D

Thanks for your input. Maybe this will help someone else.

Larry E
 

Don S

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Re: Problem solved

Re: Problem solved

I merged your problem solved thread with the original problem thread.

It's the only way people can find what the problem was.
 

Larry E

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Re: Problem solved

Re: Problem solved

OK Don thanks...
I merged your problem solved thread with the original problem thread.

It's the only way people can find what the problem was.
 
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