Teleflex Steering QuickT reversed

[tristondraper]

I recently purchased a new 28' pontoon. The steering cable was previously damaged and the owner had removed it. (I have no reference to how it was on prior) I purchased a new Quick T steering assembly with the gear box and cable. Installing it at the rear of the boat on the lower unit as it should be. ran the cable under the boat into the helm and into the steering box as described in the booklet. The gear box only has one side that the cable will "snap" into the other side is threaded for a dust cover where the cable exits the gear box. Long story short the boat goes left when I turn right. It was quite a day on the lake with this new "feature" installed. Any suggestions would be helpful. I called the Marina i got the cable from the service manager stated it was installed wrong it is the only type they sell. I can not pull it apart to reverse it, it does not come apart.

 

[richard.prince]

Re: Teleflex Steering QuickT reversed

Uhh can you flip the steering box over?

 

[tazrig]

Re: Teleflex Steering QuickT reversed

Correct, you need to rotate it 180 degrees.

 

[belairbrian]

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If the cable will go in on only one side than turning it will have no effect. the cable is wrapping around the gear in the wrong direction. Can you post a pic of both the unit mounted in the boat and the motor connections.

 

[richard.prince]

Re: Teleflex Steering QuickT reversed

Not rotate...flip top to bottom so cable is on opposite side of gear. Or reroute cable so it comes from opposite side of motor and is flipped 180 on the arm from the motor

 

[tazrig]

Re: Teleflex Steering QuickT reversed

Not rotate...flip top to bottom so cable is on opposite side of gear. Or reroute cable so it comes from opposite side of motor and is flipped 180 on the arm from the motor

Your right I used the wrong word to describe what I meant, :facepalm: bottom line the box needs to be FLIPPED so the steering wheel is turning the internal pully or gear in the opposite direction.

 

[tristondraper]

Re: Teleflex Steering QuickT reversed

The cable cant be fed through the out hole it only goes in one way. And to switch it on the motor would mean needing a much longer steering cable

 

[tristondraper]

Re: Teleflex Steering QuickT reversed


Here are some more photos, If i was to switch the steering cable to the other side of the lower unit it i will need a longer steering cable, also drill new holes for the mount that holds the piston on and reweld the support for the steering cable pictured to the right of the motor. The gear box can not be reveresed it only mounts one way and has no screws to take it apart.

I am using this item Teleflex SS13710 Safe-T Quick Connect Marine Rotary Steering System. Ive been told by the local marina that it is an install issue that they use the same cable on all boats. The problem i see is the old steering box had 1 large gear inside it ie: wheel turns right the gear turns clockwise. This system uses 2 gears when the steering shaft turns right via the steering wheel it then turns a larger gear gripping the steering cable but this cable of course turns counterclockwise due to the use of 2 gears.

 

[tristondraper]

Re: Teleflex Steering QuickT reversed

Not rotate...flip top to bottom so cable is on opposite side of gear. Or reroute cable so it comes from opposite side of motor and is flipped 180 on the arm from the motor

If i was to flip it or mirror it I would then be steering from the wrong side of the helm.

 

[belairbrian]

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...The problem i see is the old steering box had 1 large gear inside it ie: wheel turns right the gear turns clockwise. This system uses 2 gears when the steering shaft turns right via the steering wheel it then turns a larger gear gripping the steering cable but this cable of course turns counterclockwise due to the use of 2 gears.

You nailed it right here. consider a teleflex SAFE-T II or HPS Rotary.
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[richard.prince]

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My appologies i was thinking that you could flip the steering box or flip the steering arm around if it was an outboard

 

[tristondraper]

Re: Teleflex Steering QuickT reversed

You nailed it right here. consider a teleflex SAFE-T II or HPS Rotary.
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I think youve solved it, I hope they will take this one back. Are the two you listed able to be fed through either top or bottom entry points? That would be a definite fix if so.

Thanks All!

 

[rickdb1boat]

Re: Teleflex Steering QuickT reversed

The way the cable is setup is the issue. Is is attached directly to the Starboard side of your motor (Outdrive). This directly affects the way the cable will move the motor. On an outboard, the cable passes though the tilt tube and controls the motor from the Port side. Turning the steering wheel clockwise causes the cable to extend and the link arm pulls the rear (as in Prop) of the motor to the right and the boat will steer to the right. On yours, when you turn the steering wheel to the right, the cable extends and pushes the drive to the left (prop is to the left). That makes the boat steer to the left..

 

[richard.prince]

Re: Teleflex Steering QuickT reversed

Lol i see your problem......you only gots half a motor thar

(sorry it seemed funny to me)


On a side note my bowrider with the mercruiser has some form of jacked up steering system where the cables are inside and attach to the outdrive through the transom I think (not sure because it is not currently in my yard cause my lovely pontoon is here having a project designed for it)

 

[tristondraper]

Re: Teleflex Steering QuickT reversed

Lol i see your problem......you only gots half a motor thar

(sorry it seemed funny to me)


On a side note my bowrider with the mercruiser has some form of jacked up steering system where the cables are inside and attach to the outdrive through the transom I think (not sure because it is not currently in my yard cause my lovely pontoon is here having a project designed for it)

ha! yeah i just joked last weekend it was a hybrid lol the other 1/2 was battery

 

[tazrig]

Re: Teleflex Steering QuickT reversed

I think youve solved it, I hope they will take this one back. Are the two you listed able to be fed through either top or bottom entry points? That would be a definite fix if so.

Thanks All!

You should be able to simply rotate (this time I meant to use the word rotate and not flip) the steering box to accept the cable from entering from any position, top bottom or side. The only two things that would prevent this would be the physical length of the cable and/or physical room under your dash as you can only bend the cable so far before it binds up and you then would need a longer cable so the angle of the bend would be less severe.

 

[belairbrian]

Re: Teleflex Steering QuickT reversed

I think youve solved it, I hope they will take this one back. Are the two you listed able to be fed through either top or bottom entry points? That would be a definite fix if so.

Thanks All!

The ones I suggested should bolt in the same as the one you have now and connect to the cables the same. They just have one gear instead of two.

 

[tristondraper]

Re: Teleflex Steering QuickT reversed

You should be able to simply rotate (this time I meant to use the word rotate and not flip) the steering box to accept the cable from entering from any position, top bottom or side. The only two things that would prevent this would be the physical length of the cable and/or physical room under your dash as you can only bend the cable so far before it binds up and you then would need a longer cable so the angle of the bend would be less severe.

Look at the photo only one end has an accepting female adapter. Rotating it only allows for a different look it still functions exactly the same. Rotating it is like turning the steering wheel on your car you still turn the same direction now matter what the starting point is. I need the steering box mirrored or flipped over. Which is impossible on the box as it only mounts on one side.

 

[tazrig]

Re: Teleflex Steering QuickT reversed

Look at the photo only one end has an accepting female adapter. Rotating it only allows for a different look it still functions exactly the same. Rotating it is like turning the steering wheel on your car you still turn the same direction now matter what the starting point is. I need the steering box mirrored or flipped over. Which is impossible on the box as it only mounts on one side.

I realize it only has the one female fitting but if you go from the one gear system to the two gear system to correct your problem and make the boat turn left when you turn left then you can rotate the teleflex quick T to accept your cable whether your cable is entering your dashboard from the top, bottom, or side if you have the room under your dash and the cable is long enough to bend without crimping. Usually it just mounts from the side.

 

[tristondraper]

Re: Teleflex Steering QuickT reversed

I realize it only has the one female fitting but if you go from the one gear system to the two gear system to correct your problem and make the boat turn left when you turn left then you can rotate the teleflex quick T to accept your cable whether your cable is entering your dashboard from the top, bottom, or side if you have the room under your dash and the cable is long enough to bend without crimping. Usually it just mounts from the side.

I understand putting the cable in the other reverse hole will correct the problem however with it not securing in this position if you turned left there is no stopper and the cable would turn itself right out of the gear box.

There was a simple solution to this issue that I had. The kit was missing an adapter used to secure the cable into the other side. When i returned to the repair shop today to voice my confusion in person the sales rep was as baffled as I. As a mechanic walked be he said "oh you need one of these it should have been included in the kit" reached into his pocket and pulled out an adapter that secures the cable in the opposite side. Tada problem solved...