The "spin" on the immigrant protests

kenimpzoom

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Did anyone notice that from a protest for illegal aliens it changed to a protest for all immigrants.<br /><br />I dont remember congress or US citizens ever having a problem with legal immigrants.<br /><br />It was the illegal part.<br /><br />Nice spin, organizers and media.<br /><br />Ken
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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Re: The "spin" on the immigrant protests

Here are some laws that the United States needs to adopt.<br /><br />If their good for Mexico, then they will sure be fine and dandy here in the USA!<br /><br /><br />The Mexican constitution includes the following restrictions: <br /><br />• Pursuant to Article 33, "Foreigners may not in any way participate in the political affairs of the country." This ban applies, among other things, to participation in demonstrations and the expression of opinions in public about domestic politics like those much in evidence in Los Angeles, New York and elsewhere in recent days. <br /><br />• Equal employment rights are denied to immigrants, even legal ones. Article 32: "Mexicans shall have priority over foreigners under equality of circumstances for all classes of concessions and for all employment, positions, or commissions of the Government in which the status of citizenship is not indispensable." <br /><br />• Jobs for which Mexican citizenship is considered "indispensable" include, pursuant to Article 32, bans on foreigners, immigrants, and even naturalized citizens of Mexico serving as military officers, Mexican-flagged ship and airline crew, and chiefs of seaports and airports. <br /><br />• Article 55 denies immigrants the right to become federal lawmakers. A Mexican congressman or senator must be "a Mexican citizen by birth." Article 91 further stipulates that immigrants may never aspire to become cabinet officers as they are required to be Mexican by birth. Article 95 says the same about Supreme Court justices. <br /><br />• In accordance with Article 130, immigrants — even legal ones — may not become members of the clergy, either. <br /><br />• Foreigners, to say nothing of illegal immigrants, are denied fundamental property rights. For example, Article 27 states, "Only Mexicans by birth or naturalization and Mexican companies have the right to acquire ownership of lands, waters, and their appurtenances, or to obtain concessions for the exploitation of mines or of waters." <br /><br />• Article 11 guarantees federal protection against "undesirable aliens resident in the country." What is more, private individuals are authorized to make citizen's arrests. Article 16 states, "In cases of flagrante delicto, any person may arrest the offender and his accomplices, turning them over without delay to the nearest authorities." In other words, Mexico grants its citizens the right to arrest illegal aliens and hand them over to police for prosecution. Imagine the Minutemen exercising such a right! <br /><br />• The Mexican constitution states that foreigners — not just illegal immigrants — may be expelled for any reason and without due process. According to Article 33, "the Federal Executive shall have the exclusive power to compel any foreigner whose remaining he may deem inexpedient to abandon the national territory immediately and without the necessity of previous legal action."<br /><br /><br />And they say the United States needs immigration reform! :rolleyes:
 

kenimpzoom

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Re: The "spin" on the immigrant protests

SBN, this is typical of any third world country. These countries could be be bought by rich foreigners, so they have to protect themselves.<br /><br />That is what makes the USA great.<br /><br />Ken
 

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Re: The "spin" on the immigrant protests

I don't understand what "rights" legal immigrants have to protest for. I keep seeing signs demanding "immigrant rights".<br /><br />Illegals are not really immigrants, they are criminals, and so are the people who knowingly employ and hide them.<br /><br />If they are protesting the proposed conditional amnesty they are shooting themselves in the foot.<br /><br />If they are protesting the "reform" making it illegal to break laws already on the books they can't take a joke. The old laws are a joke and the new proposal would be a bigger joke.<br /><br />My position on what to do about illegals is being rapidly moved to the right by this uproar.<br /><br />Offer them protesters jobs as experimental subjects for testing WMD. :mad:
 

treedancer

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Re: The "spin" on the immigrant protests

Everybody seems to think that this is a protest, in my opinion this is a show for the American politicians to take a look at and see how many votes can be had.Somebody leading the so-called protest is rather political savvy<br /><br /> . As for as the Mexican constitution is concerned that can be worked around on any local level via bribes.<br /><br /> We have plenty of laws all we have to do is enforce them. Go after the people that hire illegals with the laws that we have that will dry up the supply of jobs,inforce the points of entry, even if we have to build some tall walls at the busiest places .
 

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Re: The "spin" on the immigrant protests

Here is a c/p from the Minutemen. The fence they are proposing is impressive.<br /><br /> MINUTEMEN TO BUILD ARIZONA-MEXICO BORDER FENCE<br /><br />(PHOENIX, AZ) April 20, 2006 – Chris Simcox, President of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps (“MCDC”), today announced plans by the MCDC to work with local Arizona land owners to build border security fencing on private land along the border with Mexico.<br /><br />At present, six private land owners have partnered with the Minutemen for the commencement of construction of border fencing on their land. Surveillance cameras on the fencing will be monitored via computer by registered Minutemen across the country. We have chosen a fence design that is based on the Israeli fences in Gaza and on the West Bank that have cut terrorist attacks there by 95% or more. In order to be effective, a fence should not be easy to compromise by climbing over it with a ladder, cutting through it with wire cutters, ramming it with a vehicle, or tunneling under it undetected. No fence can be a 100% impenetrable barrier—but a good design will be time-consuming enough to get through that Border Patrol agents can be alerted to get to a point of attempted intrusion before the intrusion can be completed. We thank Colin Hanna and We Need A Fence.com for the design concept.<br /><br />Simcox says those involved in the planning hope to keep costs near $150 per foot.<br /><br />Donate to Build the Minuteman Border Fence<br /><br />VOLUNTEER to Build the Minuteman Border Fence<br /><br />Two construction companies to date have offered to inaugurate groundbreaking, coordinate volunteer construction crews and donate the use of the necessary heavy construction equipment.<br /><br />The groundbreaking will begin in Arizona on Memorial Day weekend, unless in the interim President Bush deploys National Guard and reserve troops to immediately secure the out-of-control southern border.<br /><br />The fencing will be built with privately donated funds, engineering and labor and will be used as an example to educate the public about the feasibility and efficacy of fencing to secure America’s borders from illegal incursion by aliens and international criminal cartels. A non-profit organization dedicated specifically to this purpose will facilitate and administer donations for construction of the fence. Monetary and in-kind contributions for this effort will go directly into building materials for this private, volunteer fencing project.<br /><br />Simcox issued the following statement on the MCDC border fence project:<br /><br />“President Bush once said he would not wait on events to act to protect our country. He has been president for over five years, and still he has not acted to secure our territorial frontier, even as his administration admits the United States government does not have operational control of our borders.<br /><br />“On Memorial Day weekend, the American people will exercise their God-given rights to protect their lives and property by initiating construction of fencing along the border on private land unless President Bush immediately deploys National Guard and/or reserve troops along the breadth of the Southwestern border line with Mexico, thereby retaking the region from the international criminal cartels who presently are in operational control of the border. Additional support is available from military units presently training to guard the borders in other countries such as Iraq and Afghanistan and they should immediately relocate their training to the Southwestern border.<br /><br />“The existing border crisis is a dereliction of duty by those entrusted with American security and sovereignty, leaving America vulnerable to terrorist infiltration and an unprecedented crime wave caused by drug smugglers, rapists, thieves, human traffickers and murderers who currently cross our border at will.<br /><br />“President Bush and Congress have taxed the wages of the American people to pay for the protection of our country, and expended those dollars to subsidize millions of low-wage illegal workers with housing, education, medical care, and welfare benefits. Yet even the most basic level of national territorial integrity requires that our elected representatives secure the border. Should they continue to refuse to do their Constitutional duty, the Minutemen will again step into the breach and commence building the required border barriers on private land and with private donations.<br /><br />“Should President Bush and Congress fail to fulfill their oaths of office, and meet their Constitutional obligation to protect these United States from invasion, we, the sovereign people of the United States, having suffered a long train of abuses at the hand of a willfully insolent government, do hereby declare that these States ought, should and will be protected by American Minutemen.”<br /><br />Sincerely,<br /><br />Chris Simcox, President<br />Minuteman Civil Defense Corps<br /> http://www.MinutemanHQ.com
 
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