Thermostat assembly 1998 v4 looper

henryban

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After five years of high-use operation I decided to change out the two thermostats on my 130 hp v4 looper. <br /><br />I have a temperature gage that up until now never rose above 120F, mostly 110F. <br /><br />With the new thermostat, p/n 436195, the temp rose above 140F at idle. I did not like what was happening and shut down.<br /><br />Replaced the old thermostat (other parts new) and the same thing happened. The temp rose above 140.<br /><br />Running without the thermostats the head is 110 at idle.<br /><br />I’m puzzled. A read of prior posts would indicate that 140F is nominal.<br /><br />Does it mean that the thermostat has been running full open all this time?<br /><br />The assemly does not look conventional and I do not understand how it functions.<br /><br />The thermostat assembly sketch that I have does not show the orientation of the tapered spring. I am fairly sure that the large end of the spring goes toward the cover. Is that correct? <br /><br />I had removed the heads for inspection. The piston and cyl walls near perfect. Most of the original hone finish is still clearly evident. No build up in water wall, quite clean. The block mating surface that opposes the head is almost like new. The head had some pitting and was remachined. Always used regular gas and WalMart oil. The motor is used in saltwater exclusively. Never freswater flushed. The plug gap was widened by a season of use but otherwise the plugs were fairly clean.
 

Dhadley

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Re: Thermostat assembly 1998 v4 looper

Its supposed to run warmer at idle. Kind of surprised that it idled OK if it was running that cool before. Must have taken forever to come out of Quick Start.
 

ob

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Re: Thermostat assembly 1998 v4 looper

Yea Henry,If your engine year calls for the tapered spring ,the large end seats against the cover.This spring supplies the tension for the thermostats bypass feature which is overcome by water pressure when the engine rpms and water pressure increase.Your old ones may have been stuck in bypass.They tend to get crudded up.I boat in saltwater exclusively and highly recommend a thorough fresh water flush after use.140-145 degree is good to go.Temps at and above 160 are cause for concern.
 

henryban

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Re: Thermostat assembly 1998 v4 looper

Geeze, this will take some getting used to. <br /><br />The engine has probably has eight or nine hundred hours of dead idle trolling. I have had the engine since new. I guess it would take about five minutes to come down from fast idle. It always idled along smooth at six to eight hundred rpm. Never gave me a problem.<br /><br />I was pleasantly surprised to see how clean the water passages were. Especially since it has never seen fresh water except the few times with muffs. Also the condition of the bore and how good the block gasket surface looked. The heads probably cleaned up after .015 removal. Except for some heavier carbon buildup at the outer edges of the pistons the carbon was removed by a green plastic scour pad. The heads cleaned easy too, with the scour pad. <br /><br />Much thanks for your help. I was beginning to wonder about my memory and the position of the spring. And learning about the 160F high limit.
 
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