Throttle problem on 1984 150hp Merc.....can anybody please help?

spinfreak

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(Sorry if some of this seems "weird"...instead of re-typing the whole thing, I just copied and pasted it from another site that I go on) :) <br /><br />I took the "new" boat out today, and it's still having the same problem it did a few years ago back in Jersey. It's a 1984 Merc 150hp Blackmax. I'll start from the beginning, but try to keep it short...lol.<br /><br />A few years ago, we were fishing a 2 day tourney back in Jersey. The engine was running fine. On the 2nd day we come back in for gas. As we head out the inlet, we go to give here some throttle, and she won't go over 2000 RPMs. Check things out, and couldn't find anything wrong. She's not overheating, so we just get the RPMs down, and limped around the rest of the day. <br /><br />We took it the mechanic, and he replaced the Idle control motor (or module, or something like that...I forget). We take it out, and it still has the same problem. The mechanic did a few more things, but still had the same problem. <br /><br />After that, the boat wasn't used anymore. It sat in the storage yard for 2 years. During that time, we replaced all the internal and external fuel lines (someone said that the lines could be deteriorating inside, and causing a shortage of fuel when the throttle was applied). Also, my father replaced the spark plugs, and rebuilt the fuel and water pumps, and replaced the fitting on the end of the gas line, where it connects to the motor.<br /><br />When I ran it today and it had the same problem, I hooked it up to a small tank that I brought along, just to rule out the problem being with the tank in the boat. On the small tank, it still had the problem, so that isolates the problem to the engine. It runs fine under 2000 RPMs....no problems at all.<br /><br />When you try to give it throttle, it doesn't get above 2000 RPMs. It seems that she wants to go, and the power is there, but it sputters and won't go. <br /><br />I'm no mechanic, and don't have alot of experience with engines, but I'm thinking that there's 2 problems that it could be. <br />#1) the Carbs (3 in total). Maybe the high speed jets are blocked, but it seems unlikely, because what are the possibility that all 3 of them are clogged all at once? If just one was clogged, would I experience this much of a problem?<br />or<br />#2) The engine timing. Maybe when I'm trying to give it throttle, the spark just isn't there, and she's sputtering. This seems like it could very well be the problem, and makes sense. <br /><br />Anybody on here think it could be one of these problems, or is there something else you think it might be? I don't have the $ to take it to a mechanic right now, so I'm hoping that it's something I can fix myself. To me it doesn't seem too serious of a problem. I just brought the boat down from NJ, and I'm itching to get out there fishing, so I really want to get this fixed soon.<br /><br />Thanks for any help or advice you can give me <br /><br />(P.S. A few people have told me that they suspect it could be either the Stator, or the Power Pack [does a 1984 engine have a powerpack?]. I just want to get a few more opinions, and hopefully some advice how I can check it out myself.)
 

fishhunter

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Re: Throttle problem on 1984 150hp Merc.....can anybody please help?

Hi spin i had that problem with with my 200 hp merc (1978 model) was the stator high rpm windings one time would only run about 2000 rpm ,the second time it was a power pack out and i was running only on 3 cylinders ( that really sux) mine is in the driveway now waitin for me to fix again :( ( see future posts and /or old posts) i have had plenty of problems we can learn from lol
 

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Re: Throttle problem on 1984 150hp Merc.....can anybody please help?

Sounds like a fuel problem. (Timing doesn't change unless someone mucks with it or things get loose). Have you checked carefully for air intrusion into the fuel system or pickup blockage? <br /><br />Also, I would check to make sure all six cylinders are firing (use a spark/gap tester.) Your motor uses a 'switch box' - Merc's terminology for a powerpack.<br /><br />It sounds like you could use a shop manual. You can get one fromMercury Parts Express online. The manual will give detailed trouble shooting info.
 

bshores

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Re: Throttle problem on 1984 150hp Merc.....can anybody please help?

I had a similar problem except my 1989 175 Merc went to 4000 except for short, random bursts. I sprayed some Valvtech decarb into the carbs and seemed to do the trick. Posters swear by SeaFoam but I have not been able to find it in the PA/NJ area, but would love to try it. It may be a longshot but is a quick inexpensive attempt to fix the problem. Good luck.
 

schaiss

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Re: Throttle problem on 1984 150hp Merc.....can anybody please help?

All it takes is a plugged main jet on ONE of the three carbs to create the problem you stated. If you clean one, clean ALL! Carbs can be pulled and soaked in Carb dip ($12 a gallon at any auto parts store) and your engine should be screaming. REMEMBER... dip metal parts only, this stuff will eat everything that is non-metallic.
 

spinfreak

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Re: Throttle problem on 1984 150hp Merc.....can anybody please help?

Thanks for the replies. I'm going to check out the Stator this weekend, then if it checks out OK, I'm gonna check the Carbs. If they also check out OK, then I'm gonna check the Powerpack out. Is there a way to test the powerpack, or do I need to have a mechanic check it?<br />Thanks
 

bigdogbalog

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Re: Throttle problem on 1984 150hp Merc.....can anybody please help?

i had the same problem with my L6 115. 1st item replaced was the stator and switch boxes. did not test the new stator. everyone kept saying it's a fuel problem, but it wasn't. the new stator high speed coil was bad. there is a resistance test in the repair manual. if you have good spark at all cylinders, i'd go for the stator.
 

randycc58

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Re: Throttle problem on 1984 150hp Merc.....can anybody please help?

I have the same problem as you describe except I dont get any sputtering. It sounds very clean but nothing over a 1000 rpm. I replaced the stator last week and took it out. no change. I bought the book and tested the trigger. It test good. I'm going to try replacing the fuel pump next. If that doesn't do it I'm taking it in. I'll let you know what they find on mine
 

randycc58

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Re: Throttle problem on 1984 150hp Merc.....can anybody please help?

rebuilt the fuel pump today. solved my problem. the diaphrams were shot. usually I had to put the warm up in the full position and choke it . It would start right up. today after the repair, it wouldn't start with the warm up. so I put in the neutral position and hit the choke. started first try. Rpm and speed are all normal now. the fuel pump just couldn't provide enough fuel under load conditions. hope this helps. A $10 fix
 

spinfreak

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Re: Throttle problem on 1984 150hp Merc.....can anybody please help?

Thanks. I didn't get a chance to check out the engine yet....I guess I'll get a chance tomorrow. <br />In the beginning, we also though it was the fuel pump that was causing the problem. But that was rebuilt, and the problem was still there :(
 

derek.tabron

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Re: Throttle problem on 1984 150hp Merc.....can anybody please help?

I have got a similar problem to Spinfreak on my elderly 2-stroke Mariner 40. Sometimes it will go at top speed, other times it wont. Sputters sometimes at idle speed. I'll investigate some of your suggestions.
 

mattoc

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Re: Throttle problem on 1984 150hp Merc.....can anybody please help?

i had the same problem with my 1983 murc it would get to around 3.500 4000 rpm and it would run lumpy this happend in the space of 2hrs on the beach, i did everything and it turn out to be my fuel pump, when i would gave her rpm more fuel would flow though the engine and fuel pump, the fuel pump was worn out and old and could not pump the amount of fuel i was trying to give it. i took it apart (carefully) and pushed the pumps gasget valves back into position she now runs like new again
 
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