Title transfer question - Texas

Thump05

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So, I traded some stuff for this 1975 Ranger Bass boat. It was just a craigslist transaction. He gave me the titles for the boat and the motor. I thought I would run this past you guys before I spend any more money fixing this thing up. My concern is this: the guy I got the boat from said he got it from his friend and the boat had belonged to his friends father. The father is deceased. Do you guys think I am going to have trouble getting the titles transfered into my name. I really dont have any way of contacting the guy I got the boat from, but like I said, I have the titles in hand but they are not signed.

Thanks,

James
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: Title transfer question - Texas

get some one to sign them. or you can't do anything. i personally don't care who signs them. many people have had to do it.
 

tmcalavy

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If the guy's friend's father were alive, you would have to track all three down and get them to sign the title over to each other in succession, come up with a bill of sale for each transaction, and pay the sales tax associated with each transaction. Pretty simple, huh? NOT. But that's how it is in Austin these days. A hoop to jump through at every turn on a long, winding road. But since the guy's friends' father is dead...I just don't know. I would call the TPWD office in Austin and explain the situation. Maybe one of the nice ladies will answer the phone and lay out a simple process. Maybe. Before you do that, are you sure the boat/motor is worth the paper chase? They have the title for the boat recorded in Austin but I bet not on the motor...they didn't start titling motors here until just a few years ago. Question is: did the deceased Dad hold the title in his name? Check the boat out real well for sound hull, floor and transom and run a compression check on the motor and check its wiring, lower end, and powerhead for spark. If it doesn't pass muster, it may not be worth the hassle to run the paper chase down in Austin. You're looking at about $100 or slightly less to do all the paperwork to transfer the boat title, title the motor and get the registration on both current. I wouldn't do that unless I knew the boat/motor were sea-worthy first. Good luck.
 

Thump05

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Re: Title transfer question - Texas

I have done the startup procedure on the motor and it seems to run great. The hull and transom are sound. The floor is soft in the middle, but I can re-do that. Where do I have to go to do all the title stuff, the TPW office? On the website it appears they dont even have one in Dallas, which is where I am. Thanks.
 

BLDFW

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Re: Title transfer question - Texas

James,

I'm going through this right now on a 1970 vintage boat I came into possession of and want to restore.

It doesn't matter how many hands the boat went through before it got to you, it only matters who's name is on the title. The TPWD website has a page where you can validate title ownership. From there you have the means to track down the owner. If you are unable to contact due to the person being deceased and you have no way of contacting the family, then there is a means through a bonded title application to get the title transfered however it is a time consuming task with no guarantees. You have to prove you made efforts to contact the owner with no success (registered letters to the address on record, etc.), and pay for the bond, usually through your insurance carrier.

In my case, I had an unusable bill of sale that suggested the original owner sold the boat for $50 six years ago. The boat had changed hands several times since with each succeeding person failing to change the title. I obtained the title holders name from TPWD. I did an internet search and the name popped up. It turned out the titled owner died back in 92(ish), the last time the boat was registered.

I was very fortunate to get ahold of the son and explained the situation. He's expressed a willingness to assist by doing whatever was necessary to change the title. He's going to dig through his father's papers to see if he can find the title and if not, we will file a lost title application. He'll sign it and then send it to me.

In your case, if you have the title, then all you need is a signature and some representation of a bill of sale or a document that suggests the boat was "gifted" to you. As suggested in an earlier post, a signature...is a signature....is a signature. Don't make it more difficult for yourself. TWPD just wants to see a signature and an equivilent bill of sale....however that comes to be.

I might mention for the benefit of all Craiglist browsers (of which I am one too!), when I talked with TPWD about the necessary steps to obtain a title in a roundabout manner (before I found the title owners name/address), she expressed a bit of frustration over the number of eBay and Craiglist transactions where purchasers failed to get the title. She said too many times it was not possible to transfer the title and the purchaser was just plain SOL because there was no work around unless the purchaser had a legitimate title in hand.

Good luck! You definitely have the means right there in your hands to make this a non issue!

-Bill
Dallas, TX
 

tmcalavy

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Re: Title transfer question - Texas

There should be a regional TPWD office in the metroplex...used to live there decades ago, but can't remember where...check the phone book. The main office is in Austin. I always call there and talk to the ladies in the boat/titles division when I have a question not answered on their Web site. Always get good results from Austin, but I've heard some local office employees are as cooperative.
 

BLDFW

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Re: Title transfer question - Texas

Yeah, forgot to mention that. There isn't one on the Dallas side, who knows why! Closest would be the office in Ft. Worth. TPWD will list the closest by zip I do believe.

-Bill
Dallas, TX
 

Nandy

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Re: Title transfer question - Texas

If the bill of sale dont have to be notarized he should be ok. Like they say, a signature is a signature. However, if the bill has to be notarized then that might be a problem since you will have to find a notary willing to certify a falsified document.
 

Thump05

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Re: Title transfer question - Texas

Thank you all for all the great info!

James
 
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