To: JB - bad boat rides

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EGalvTex

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JB,<br />I'd like to hear more about the near fatal boat ride you mentioned in a previous post. I've gotten beat up awfully bad but nothing like that. :eek:
 
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Re: To: JB - bad boat rides

Howdy, EGT.<br /><br />I was in my son's Montauk with him and his son. There was not enough room for three on the pilot seat, so I was standing beside the console. <br /><br />We were returning to the fish camp on LOTW straight into a squall, 3' x 6', and he was running about 30-32mph. The boat was leaving the water periodically. <br /><br />I turned to yell in his ear to please slow down and didn't see a "3rd wave" coming. :eek: <br /><br />It ripped my grip off of the rails and slammed me down on the end of the bow rail. The curve of the rail went under the front of my PFD and ruptured an esophageal ulcer.<br /><br />It was about 12 hours before I realized I had a major GI bleed and another two before my son got me to the clinic in Roseau, MN. It took 3 units of whole blood to stabilize me.<br /><br />Not a pleasant memory. I take the helm in rough water now.<br /><br />In those same water conditions, tacking at 30* to 45* changes the frequency of rise and fall to one that the 17' Montauk handles quite comfortably, even at pretty high speeds. You're gonna get wet either way, so have good foul weather gear aboard.
 
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JB,<br /><br />Man, what a rough deal. You really were in danger up in the sticks like you were. It's pretty desolate up there.<br /><br />Running that speed in a Montauk through that type of weather is no picnic. The boat is up to it but it makes for a VERY uncomfortable feeling.<br /><br />Glad you're OK.
 
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RJS

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Glad your OK. That the problem with Whalers. They don't sink, but boy do they beat you up. I think this should be taken into consideration when one speaks of "safe boats". I have friends and brothers with bad backs and bad knees, this type of boat, in my opinion, is not safe (even under moderate seas) when you consider this factor. This is why I sold my Scout.
 
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DJ

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RJS,<br /><br />I'll take safe anyday. You can ALWAYS slow down. Safety does NOT include running at speeds to fast for conditions.<br /><br />If you drive your car 80 mph. on the ice and spin out and hit a tree-the car is not defective-the driver is.
 
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DP

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JB<br /><br />Haven't seen that you have mentioned this outing over on the Whaler forum. <br />Embarrassed or just BS?<br />If true there are a few stupid mistakes on several persons part.
 
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Howdy, 17MT.<br /><br />That Forum is not a place to make one's self vulnerable. Too many predatory know-it-alls over there ready to ridicule and demean input from someone not of the "IN" crowd. I may be old and ugly, but I am not stupid. . . at least most of the time.<br /><br />Now. "BS"? What the hell does that mean? Would you like copies of the invoices from the Roseau clinic? I was not on Medicare at the time and it cost me nearly 20 grand to stay alive.<br /><br />Not territory for jokes, BW17MT. Not by a long shot.
 
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RJS

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DJ9's18<br /><br />In rating a boats safety, you must consider risk under normal use conditions. In reality, what is the risk of going out on a boat and the boat sinking? Low. What is the health risk of someome going out on a Whaler or a Scout who have a bad back or knee when a chop develops, sore back and possibly a missed day at work.
 
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ebbtide176

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Re: To: JB - bad boat rides

i've been on this board (undeservedly) for months now, and i absolutely can NOT believe the comments. man o man, talk about a wrong comment at the right time... uh, bw17mt, pls reread your comment. <br />maybe i'm alittle fuzzy right now but it sure seems like a gross blast. sheez i cannot comprehend. jb anyone who gets a serious injury deserves a congratz on makin it to the living side of life. i lost 2pts internally once, and hadda get ECG 2x to be here now. <br />ok, i've vented. <br />yo JB, u must be a rock. ur still here hehehe
 
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I see a lot of the "Whalers and Scouts (and sometimes Grady Whites) will beat you up."<br /><br />If helmsmen insist on operating these boats, which are probably the three highest quality boats made in the 13' to 20' range, as though they were deep vees with a 30* deadrise, you are gonna get beat up when the water stands up. The boat doesn't do it. The helmsman does.<br /><br />My Montauk can be operated in a chop without pounding. So can a Scout or a Grady. You take longer to get to your destination and you get wetter. So what? You get there undamaged. :)
 
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paintermn

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Re: To: JB - bad boat rides

JB,<br /><br />What an odd string of responses. Glad your OK. My response would be this:<br /><br />If something like this has not happened to you (It has to me too- Getting caught in a horrible sea I mean) then You have not been boating long enough.<br /><br />You learn from these things and it makes you smarter and stronger.<br /><br />I have about twenty stories like yours I could bore you with, but the point is that you get into trouble fast sometimes, and your brains and God get you home.
 
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