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[Stachi]

>>>>>>just Try And Stop Us !!!!!!! :d

 

[windsors03cobra]

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The more you build the more that you can build wrong, they build some pretty good cars over there IMO.
They all break, things go wrong sometimes. Many good cars out there even the most unreliable cars today are very reliable.

Also the more electronics you add to a car the bigger the possibility of things to go haywire.
I'm loving my all mechanical throttle cars with mechanical brakes and mechanical steering.

 

[Stachi]

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Toyota is under the magnifying glass right now......they are not the only manufacturer out there with recalls... I repair rice burners of every religion ,everyday...I drive a 98 Camry LE 2.2...because I want to....

 

[QC]

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If this turns into a bashfest of any manufacturer, it will be gone quickly

 

[Stachi]

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too bad the media isn't regulated in same fashion...

 

[tashasdaddy]

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the media is about sensation. just look how many times Fox and CNN show the same pictures on Haiti

 

[dlindeblad]

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>>>>>>just Try And Stop Us !!!!!!! :d

Yah especially if you lose breaks or the throttle sticks.

 

[woosterken]

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with as much trouble there is keeping a computer running on the desk top,i think there is NO place for them in a car!!!

woosterken

 

[xxxflhrci]

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I hope Toyota's little problem causes the price to drop on the new/used Tundras. I sure would like to have a '07-up on to replace my near bullet proof '94 pickup....Well, it likely wouldn't replace the '94. I'd probably keep since I vowed to "wear it out". That proposition isn't going to well so far. It still runs as good as new.

 

[NZjohnson90]

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The more you build the more that you can build wrong, they build some pretty good cars over there IMO.
They all break, things go wrong sometimes. Many good cars out there even the most unreliable cars today are very reliable.

Also the more electronics you add to a car the bigger the possibility of things to go haywire.
I'm loving my all mechanical throttle cars with mechanical brakes and mechanical steering.

I agree a 'bad car' can run forever and supposedly 'good car' can break at any time, and the more electronics, the harder the fix.

Also you say they build good cars over there, you are probably right. Correct me if I'm wrong but all the Asian manufactured cars were fine, the recall was due to Toyota not being able to keep up with demand and having to use American parts for the throttle assembly in US and UK assembled cars - it was these parts that failed. I only say this because over here they are only recalling the US and UK assembled vehicles because they use the American parts, vehicles assembles elsewhere with Toyota parts have not been recalled.

 

[mscher]

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Other than the financial hit paying for the recall, Toyota will come out just fine. Where else will buyers go? All manufacturers have recalls.

Pretty ironic.

Modern automobiles are engineering wonders. Most will last nearly 200,000 miles with few problems.

Companies spend HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, designing, r&d, modeling, testing under every possible scenario, mfg. QC, etc.

But alas, they still cannot be made perfect.

We'll all get throught this.

 

[j_martin]

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with as much trouble there is keeping a computer running on the desk top,i think there is NO place for them in a car!!!

woosterken

I remember the good old days. If it was below 10 below, it was a miracle if the car started. At 60,000 miles a car was shot. If someone got 100,000 it was cause for celebration. A high mileage car got 20 miles per gallon if you really soft peddled it.

I just bought a used Honda with 218,000 miles on it that runs great. It should give me another 100,000 miles with reasonable care. With computer control, the cylinder walls are never flooded clean of oil, so it's not unusual to see a car with over 100,000 miles on it that still has the finishing hone scratches on the cylinder walls. Again, with computer control and electrical fuel delivery, the first cylinder over the top gets a burst of perfect mix fuel for starting. Especially with modern synthetic oils you can rely on a start at up to 40 below zero.

And when a component fails, a light turns on, you scan the computer, and it tells you in detail what it can see in misfires, rich or lean conditions, or faulty sensor readings. Anybody that understands the system can usually go right to the failing part and replace it. (Notice, I did not say the counter man at O'Reilly's)

None of this is possible without a computer in a car.

John

 

[Stachi]

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I agree , anyone who thinks cars were built better before computer controlled fuel injection and ignition systems is nuts.

 

[skargo]

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Yah especially if you lose breaks or the throttle sticks.

Breaks?

 

[Stachi]

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Breaks?

 

[itsaboattime]

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Not touching this one.....................

I haven't ever owned one...........Not gonna either

 

[skargo]

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My wife drives one, it's a great vehicle. Luckily it's not a part of the recall. The past 2 we've owned have been the most reliable vehicles we've ever owned, and we've owned a lot.

 

[kenmyfam]

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Computer controlled brakes !!

 

[jevery]

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I remember reading a few years back that we were just around the corner from introduction of a brake by wire 12v electromagnetic braking system that would eventually render the hydraulic brake obsolete.

http://www.motiontrends.com/2005/2005csm/m09eng/siemens/brakes/electronicwedgebrake.shtml

Wonder what happened? Maybe they found that the public doesn't trust an electrical circuit enough to give over control of the brakes.

 

[Bob_VT]

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Okay, today my Mom's Camry had the recall completed and it consisted of three steps..............

Installed a shim on the pedal............ so it will always return

Reshaped the pedal ............ so the idiot aftermarket floor mats do not grab the pedal

Reflashed the ECM .............. now if you step on the gas and the brake at the same time..... the brake takes the priority ans the fuel injection fuel supply is shut down. (my old 2000 Jetta used to do the same thing).

Simple, fast and free but it's done.