USCG Drops Proposed 17 Digit HIN

Ike-110722

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I normally do not comment in my BLOG http://newboatbuilders.blogspot.com/ on news items, or take a political position on them. But the following item which appeared in Soundings Trade Only requires commenting on, if only to set the record straight.

NMMA: Coast Guard drops expanded hull ID numbers
Posted on January 28, 2011

At a recent National Boating Safety Advisory Council meeting, the Coast Guard formally announced that it is withdrawing any action on its proposed expanded 17-digit hull identification number, the National Marine Manufacturers Association reported.
The Coast Guard's proposal would have extended the existing HIN number to add additional digits on all recreational boats and created significant, unnecessary expense for boat manufacturers, dealers and lenders, according to the NMMA.
The NMMA had previously challenged the Coast Guard's proposal, filing comments outlining the detriment to the recreational boating industry because of costs involved in overhauling computer systems to adapt to the new HIN and the lack of overall benefits of an extended HIN.
The NMMA also worked closely with the Coast Guard and other groups to craft an alternative that would provide necessary information for field investigators. The result was a partnership with the National Insurance Crime Bureau to have boatbuilders begin providing information to the bureau, similar to what is done for autos, the association said.
http://www.tradeonlytoday.com/home/5...ull-id-numbers


Now, as Paul Harvey used to say, here's the rest of the story.
The HIN requirement first became a regulation in the early 1970's as part of the regulations implementing the the Federal Boating Safety Act. It was not long before the National Association of Marine Investigators (now the International Association of Marine Investigators, IAMI) and the National Association of State Boating Law Administrators (NASBLA) began petitioning the Coast Guard to change the 12 character HIN to a 17 Character HIN, (see http://newboatbuilders.com/pages/hin17.html) that they felt would enhance law enforcement's ability to track stolen boats and detect bogus HINs. They even convinced the American Boat and Yacht Council (http://www.abycinc.org) to develop and publish a standard for the 17 character HIN.

In response to this over more than 25 years the US Coast Guard has made numerous proposals, conducted multiple studies, held public hearings (I held some of them at various places around the country) and published various proposed regulations for this. The results of these, was a massive amount of public comment opposed to changing the regulation. The public and the industry has always been opposed to this and the sole supporters of it are NASBLA and IAMI. If the truth be known, we at the USCG were also opposed to it. But we were prohibited by law from making our own comments either for or against. Every year we analyzed the types of violations of the Federal Standards made by boat manufacturers and incorrect HINs always headed the list and usually outnumbered anything else by a factor of three. Our reasoning was, if the manufacturers can't get the 12 digit HIN right, what are they going to do with a 17 digit HIN?

In this article the press has unfairly branded the US Coast Guard as the bad guy, but the truth is they never wanted it and were only responding to pressure from outside groups. Soundings has done the Coast Guard a disservice by making it look as if this were their idea when all along it was not.
 

bassman284

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Re: USCG Drops Proposed 17 Digit HIN

Interesting in several ways.

First that MO doesn't track this activity when eveything I've read indicates Missouri is one of the toughest states to title a boat with lost, out of date (not transferred at previous sale) or coming from a non-tite state.

I did quite a bit of research on this subject due to a couple of threads here on iboats. Talk about chaos! Of the 30 or so states that DO require titles, almost every one has different requirements based on size, year of mfg, powered or not, etc. A few of the states that do not actually require a title allow titling on a voluntary basis. Some states, like Missouri, require titles on outboard and even trolling motors.

Clearly, until the states coordinate titling requirements with each other (probably under federal mandate like automotive VINs) The HIN isn't going to mean that much.

Peter, I was expecially interested in your comment regarding HIN errors by manufacturers. There is a thread on this forum right now where the poster bought a boat with a Michigan title that claims it is a 1994 model. The HIN comes back as 1991 and he is a litte upset. Question is, fraud? typo on the title? or error by the manufacturer. I bookmarked your blog and plan to spend some time there reading it. Thanks.
 
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