used to be the man.

yourkiddin

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Need advice about this situation. I started a job in 93,very quickly I excelled and became very well known. I was the one that when something needed fixed I was that man.soon I was doing it all and was moved to first shift as a technician. when the operators could not fix their machine or there was a qualty problem I would come to the rescue. this went on for years. After awhile I asked for a raise. I was making less than the operators but was fixing there problems. I was not given a raise but drove on. a year later the management posted a job for technician jobs on the rotating shifts. the techs would have to go back to operating a machine. and if an operator had a problem ,the tech would have to swap out and fix the other operators problem. management told me that they were doing away with first shift people and i needed to apply for one of these jobs and train the other two. I refused and when ask why I told them I didn't want to go back to operating. they hired 3 other guys and paid them 3 more dollars than me and now wants me to train them. this is when my anger began. they also said now there would be another level and it would pay 3 more dollars. and they also never made them operate the machine. but used them as a team leader. soon I found myself still fixing all the problems that the others were to be fixing. tension and anger still building. so one guy didn't work out and I was approached again. I finally took it. two years later still none of us
was moved up to the next level to get the 3 more dollars.all of that was forgotten. one of the guys being a suck up or *** chewer as I call him. has convinced management that he is so good. now guess what. they have moved him to first shift. all of this has killed my work ethic,I have so much hatred towards the individual and management.I can't seem to let it go. its showing in my attitude. now one other thing. we have had a lot of management turnover.some the ones that knew my past performance has moved on. They try.to get me to work on my days off and work on issues while the first shift guys does nothing. I won't do it just to show them that this is what they get.but in the end I'm hurting myself financially. I just don't know how to move forward and let this go. Sorry so long,but there is so much more. I blame the most of it on poor management.
 

jones56

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Re: used to be the man.

Prayer..... it will make it clearer for you
 

roscoe

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Re: used to be the man.

SHould have moved on after 5 years if they weren't paying you right, and treating you wrong.
That would have been the most ideal time to keep moving upward and onward, in my opinion.

You still can.

Just harder to convince the new employer why you are leaving the job after 18 years, without sounding like a whiner.
 

wifisher

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Re: used to be the man.

Wow, that sounds exactly like my previous employer. I finally got to the point where I did not want to deal with it anymore. Have not looked back for even a second.

It really sucks how poor management can tear a good company apart like that. And it is probably people who do not know how to do your job, but they tell you that you are doing it wrong
 

yourkiddin

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Re: used to be the man.

I am in the process of trying to leave. I guess I just kept thinking things would get better. With the economy,its not the best time. I'm trying to stick it out and suck it up.
 

vipzach

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Re: used to be the man.

I am in the process of trying to leave. I guess I just kept thinking things would get better. With the economy,its not the best time. I'm trying to stick it out and suck it up.

There comes a time when it is time to just cut your losses and move on.

I wish I would of taken the job offers that I had a couple years ago, but I chose to stay with the company I was working for. Now they have closed their doors and I have no job.
 

yourkiddin

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Re: used to be the man.

Sorry to hear you lost it. I'm at least thankful I have one. I'm just miserable.
 

Smuggler's Blues

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Re: used to be the man.

Hope you dont mind me chiming in here. My $.02 is that if the job is bothering you that much try to find another. The stress alone can cause all sorts of health issues, not to mention what it does to your home life. Always been my rule that if I am unhappy somewhere for any length of time then you know its time to move on. I know its time when I enjoy the ride to get there and then feel miserable the second I pull into the lot.
 

Bob_VT

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Re: used to be the man.

You know..... with the job market the way it is...... I say ride it out and try to concentrate on other activities outside work. There are thousands of people that would jump at the chance just to be employed.

Life is not fair..... someone suggested prayer (always a sound suggestion) ;) .......... I just feel you should be reaching for a happy medium...... Employment in itself is a status symbol and you just may have to ask for divine guidance to cope with it.
 

Fireman431

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Re: used to be the man.

As was mentioned in other posts, this is a terrible economy not to have a job. So...IMHO...go back to work with a smile on your face, let the crap roll off of your back, and in the off hours, get your resume out there if you want to find other employment. As a (once) manager, your work ethic does not go unnoticed. It may go unrewarded, but it is noted. So is your attitude, although you may think you're keeping it hidden. As I just mentioned in another thread, for every person who complains about their job, there are 1000 people out there who are willing to do more work for less money. Keep your self focus on the task at hand and seek a position elsewhere to satisy your soul.
 

lakelover

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Re: used to be the man.

I'd say you're getting the shaft. I've seen it too many times a lot llike you've described.

Yes, finding a new job in the current economy is hard so I would stick it out for now and at the same time be actively looking for another/better job. It can't hurt to look and after myself having been laid off once after 16 years at a place, I always try to have a "Plan B". Seeing what's out there and gaining confidence that you are worth being treated better gives you a better sense of personal power and control and you will feel better even if you are stuck there for a while. Even just looking around and putting out feelers will help you feel better.
 

JB

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Re: used to be the man.

Life is too short to spend it in a job that you hate or to allow others to control your destiny.

Sounds like you are taken for granted. Been there; it sux.

This economy is a lousy time to suggest that you move on, but I think you need to prepare to do just that.

What different career would you like? Go to school and collect some credentials. Good schools will help you find work in your new field.

In my years teaching in and running Tech Colleges I can't tell you how many middle aged men and women came to us to change careers and did so successfully.

Tech colleges can help you become a nurse, medical tech, medical assistant, chef, graphic artist, 'puter programmer, welder, machininst or about anything you are interested in.

The health care field is crying for all sorts of trained technicians and specialists. The seven health care people in my family all agree on one thing: There is no place in this country that a trained care giver can't find employment. The field is recession proof.

Time for you to take charge of your career, YK. It may look scary, but you can't screw it up any worse than you current employer has.

Good luck. :)
 

SuperNova

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Re: used to be the man.

I've been exactly where you're talking about and I can tell you from my experience that the anger and the hatred can be self-destructive. It can cause you to do things and make decisions that you may later regret or may land you in a worse situation. Even if you find another job that seems good, you may overlook some things because you are running away from a bad situation as opposed to skipping to a better opportunity. And unless you can figure out a way to let go of the anger, most likely you will carry it to your new job and the first time something doesn't seem right or fair, you may overreact, not intentionally, but because of that suspicion and anger. Unfortunately, I've had to discover the hard way that my attitude at work is my own responsibility and NOT anyone else's. The way I look at it is I may be stuck for now, but I can make the best of it. If I keep smiling and making jokes, it actually does make it bearable and I come home at the end of the day and don't treat my family like crap because of the anger I'm still carrying from work. You gotta stop focusing on the negative and try to focus on what is positive about your job and the things you actually like about your job. Remember, your attitude is your own responsibility....don't look for other people to make you happy or make your work enjoyable. You'll figure out that they have no more real power to make you miserable than they have to make you happy. It truly is up to you. You can get through. And meanwhile look for the job you really want, just realize you'll be starting all over again at the new place......
 

Nandy

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Re: used to be the man.

You need to find a professional to discuss your personal issues, your church priest or alike. This is affecting you more that what is affecting those others that are seen as to cause you this problem. It will help you wonders...
 

yourkiddin

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Re: used to be the man.

I'm hoping things will get better. I'm half the way to being hired . Waiting on the call to,have physical.
 

avenger79

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Re: used to be the man.

i am in a very similar situation. i find out soon if i'll have a new job opportunity. stay quiet, and hold your anger but it is time to move on it sounds like.

best of luck.
 

ajgraz

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Re: used to be the man.

Sounds like a very poor line of communication between you and the powers that be. Do you not have performance reviews? Have you sat and asked what it specifically requires for you to move ahead and have you and your manager made a real plan to get you there?

Agreed with this. Demand a written job description/objectives, a "career ladder," and periodic written performance reviews, whether at your current job or the next one.
 

jtmarten

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Re: used to be the man.

Sounds similar to my last employer too. I had been/was R&D, plant chemist, lead on the elite production line, was one of few who knew the electroforming process from start to finish. The company was sold, and the new management was driving the company into the dirt. I found a great job as plant chemist for a major corporation and left.
Within a year the new CEO (of former employer) called and offered me a position as Senior Process Engineer/Engineering Manager, I turned it down. They later fired him, and the new guy hears about me, calls and offers the same position, and again I turned it down.
Better jobs, and more importantly better work environments, are out there. Best of luck on your search.
 
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