Volvo Penta cutting out...

MrTeach

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Hi...I have a 2002 Larson 210 with a Volvo Penta 5.0 with 270hp and it is fuel injected...I took it in for servicing in February, 2005...this is after I filled up the tank in November and added Stabil as well...the dealer replaced the fuel sending unit for the gas gauge(which never worked), replaced the fuel filter, changed the impeller and oil...I took the boat out for the first time this year on Sunday, and we left the boat dock idling away in 5mph happy land for about 100 yards, and then when I got it up to 20mph, it started to hesitate and cut out...acting like it had run out of gas...brought it home and added 9 gallons of new gas to it...ran it at home for 20 minutes or 7 Van Halen songs...NO problems, but I didn't rev it up that much for very long...then took it out today, again, same thing...idled for 20 minutes at boat launch, and then when we hit 20mph, it cut out...please, any thoughts, because I am ticked...
 

vipzach

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Re: Volvo Penta cutting out...

Welcome to iboats! Have you checked timing? Maybe the fuel water seperator, checked plugs, those kind of things?
 

captaincrunch

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Re: Volvo Penta cutting out...

Did you steal my motor:) I have the same engine and what sounds like the same problem. Seems to work at low rpm but when you put the hammer down it just dies. If it doesn't stall outright the thottle starts to fluctuate. I've gone through cap rotor fuel filter, checking fuel flow which is OK and no codes showing on hte computer. Found a somewhat corroded contact on the fuel pump but not tested since it was cleaned. I am noticing some erratic behaviour on the guages. You might try a coil though. I've had some input as to this might be breaking down.
 

MrTeach

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Re: Volvo Penta cutting out...

Thanks VipZach...just had it serviced in February, so I would hope it's not the timing or plugs...another friend mentioned the f/w separator...I will have to have a buddy of mine look at it...by the way, I ran it today and last night...took it up to 5000rpm...no problems... dealer said it could be the fuel pump and listen for a little noise when you turn it on, and I heard the little noise, and now I am bout ready to give the dealer a little noise for giving him 892 dollars and now this on my first spin for 2005...
 

MrTeach

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Re: Volvo Penta cutting out...

Thanks Captain...my rpm is a lot higher also...it's at 2000rpm when it is idling, although last night in my driveway, it got down to 800rpm...then this morning it was back up around 2000, then down to 1400rpm at idling...my temperature gauges went wayyyyyyyyyyyyy up to 220 and way down to 175...all in a matter of 1-2 seconds while I had the earmuffs on in my driveway...my boat is a 2002...that's really pathetic, I would think to have this problem and after having it serviced a few months ago...
 

captaincrunch

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Re: Volvo Penta cutting out...

Mine is a 2000. One thing you mentioned has me wondering. I was told that if I see this again to remove the grey wire from my port engine tach. The mechanic seems to think this could be feeding back to the computer somehow. I've never seen the tach fluctuate that much. Just some jitter which I attributed to some flackey connections in the dash. I guess its all tied together soemhow. If your idling at 2000 something is really wrong. Around 500 rpm seems to be where my motors idle. When my problem happens I can't get above 2000 rpm but thats under a load. Just reving the engine seems to be able to rev up without problem. One thing that was tried was shorting out my trim indicators. For the life of me I don't know why. I was told that intermittent operation of the trim indicators can cause flacky throttle operation also. Unforunately it did not work in my case. I'm going to try a coil this weekend if the weather holds. I'll let you know my results.
 

MrTeach

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Re: Volvo Penta cutting out...

Captain Crunch...sweet boat you have there, 29' Four Winns? No codes on the computer? How do I go about checking for codes on my engine's computer?
 

MrTeach

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Re: Volvo Penta cutting out...

this is all over my head, but I appreciate your time...and yes, do let me know what happens with you...what I do not understand is why it would work fine in my driveway 3 times, and then out on the water, it would not...I guess it is because my engine knows what a pain in the *** it will be to be towed back to the boat launch, or worse, to row yourself back like the last time...good thing the current was with me...I will have to put a call into my friend who is an asi mechanic and used to own a seaswirl...he's always telling me to let him work on my boat, as it is just a hobby now that he is teaching...
 

captaincrunch

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Re: Volvo Penta cutting out...

You need to have the dealership check it. They plug in portable computer to check engine operation. Unfortunately if you have an intermittent problem it might not show anything. Not all dealers have them though. Yup its a 29 four winns. This is the first trouble I've had with it in 5 years. Its been a good boat for us.
 

MrTeach

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Re: Volvo Penta cutting out...

Yes, mine has been very good also for 2 years...we have put in a ton of hours until this year, and no, I don't think we've got our money's worth out of it yet...i am still making payments for the next 9 years...you know what they say about boats...get yourself a new credit card just for 'da boat
 

rodbolt

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Re: Volvo Penta cutting out...

if no codes are set its most likly a mechanical failure. as in something the puter does not or cannot monitor. sticking injectors and clogged ingector filters as well as a clogged screen on the high pressure pump are all mechanical things that the puter isnt smart enough to figgue out. I use my lap top all the time but it rarely ever tells me whats wrong just what is not.
 

MrTeach

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Re: Volvo Penta cutting out...

Thanks Rod I appreciate your help and time in this...
 

captaincrunch

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Re: Volvo Penta cutting out...

Well...The moon must be right since my engine ran this weekend. One thing we did find was a corroded plug on the fuel pump...maybe...maybe not. We did a number of hole shots to put max load on the engines. Couldn't get it to crap out. the true test will be when I get far enough away from home port to need a tow back...thats when it will fail. Murphys law.
 

rodbolt

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Re: Volvo Penta cutting out...

I really dont know why your ticked. none of the above mentioned serviuce would prevent fuel system problems. stabil is only good for about 6 months and then only if the fuel was fresh to begin with. usually if it dies out its fuel related. either the pump is weak, the screens in the pump are clogged or a connection is dirty. is this a TBI motor or MPI motor. on the TBI its easy to watch it for fuel flow. on an MPI engine its a bit mor difficult. but both engines use fine mesh screens on the injectors that can varnish up while sitting.
 
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