Water in Hull

Thunder16

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Recently bought a 1990 Thundercraft 1560 bowrider. Have found too many needed repairs to list here, but the last one has me worried. After reading a post here that suggested sealing old screw holes in the stern by reinserting the screws coated with 3M 5200, I decided to do that. I removed three screws that were holding an old plastic transducer bracket on the bottom of the starboard side of the stern. When the third came out, it was followed by a steady stream of water, about the strength of a good beer whiz. I was suprised but figured it would only last a few seconds. More than an hour and a half later, gallons of water had come out of the hull. The drain plug was open and the bilge dry the whole time ... This water was all inside the hull and not going through the bilge or drain plug. My questions: How did it get there? Could it all have gone through this loose screw hole? If so, how come it never dripped? And if I reinsert this screw with 5200, how will I know if water is building up in there again? How do I keep it out if I don't know how it got in? Also, is there a similar compartment on the port side that could be holding water too? Do I have to bore a hole to find out? I've yet to put this boat in the water, been working on it instead, but the previous owner (a buddy) never realized his hull was full of water. Has anyone else experienced a similar situation? I am new to power boating and thought all water in the hull was supposed to go out through the drain hole or be pumped out by the bilge pump.
 

Boomyal

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Doesn't sound too good Thunder. Sounds like the foam is soaked. That would make me suspicious of the state of the flooring and stringers. It doesn't take but a couple of seasons of wet to rot them all. I'd be taking a real good look at the flooring for starters. <br /><br />If you find soft spots I would be inclined to cut an inspection hole in the floor and try to get a look at the stringers as well.<br /><br />Water could have seeped in through those screw holes but it also could have gotten in numerous other ways. Things such as where your seats are mounted thru the floor, if you have an infloor gas tank, water could have gotten in around the access opening.
 

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Re: Water in Hull

I didn't know a boat could hold that much water and not have it drain out through the bilge and drain hole. I mean it was gallons and gallons. Recently I removed the old (rotted out) seats and old carpet; the floor seemed very solid to me.
 

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p.s. I have a portable gas tank, not in-floor. The old lounge seats were mounted to frames that had been glassed-in separately on top of the deck. I removed those frames before installing new carpet, a pedestal seat and a lounge seat.
 

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Sounds like those "Air-Tight" compartments aren't Water-Tight.............<br /><br />There's quite a few fellas on here that have posted pictures of their rebuilds......<br />Have a look,... You'll get some Ideas on how Your Boat is put together........
 

Thunder16

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Re: Water in Hull

Thanks Bondo and Boom. How do I make them water tight without ripping the deck off?
 

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There's quite a few fellas on here that have posted pictures of their rebuilds......<br />Have a look,... You'll get some Ideas on how Your Boat is put together........
Thunder,.......<br />Your knowledge,+ questions are Too General at this point,......<br />Go have a Read thruogh some of the archives here at iboats boat restoration forums..... <br />All of Your Answers are in there.......<br /><br />When you're armed with More Facts,+ Opinions,...<br /> You'll have More Spefic Questions that can be answered by 1 finger typing Rednecks,.. <br />Who've Already typed it 2 or 3 times now......... ;)
 

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How do I make them water tight without ripping the deck off?
Would well be akin to closing the barn door after the horses have gotten out. I'm afraid that there is no easy way here. Suffice it to say, with that much water below floor, your structure is in jeopardy if not already compromised.<br /><br />Another issue is that even though you got rid of a lot of liquid below floor, your foam is saturated. A cubic foot of foam which normally only weighs 2-4 lb could easily weigh up to 5 times it's dry weight. That would be hauling around a lot of excess baggage. Could make the boat handling mushy.
 

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You unscrewed from the bottom of the transom, correct? And you had water drip out. You probably have a rotten transom at this point.<br />Better search the forums on how to fix this.<br /><br />Edited to make a member feel more at home.
 

Boomyal

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Originally posted by Realgun:<br /> Thats the thing on the back of the boat thats flat.
Yer gettin awful technical for this late on a Sunday nite. :p
 

Thunder16

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Thanks Real and Boom. I will search the archives. Thought the transom was just where the outboard bolts on; that's why I said "stern." If I knew all this stuff already, I wouldn't need to come here looking for answers to my dumb questions. Thanks just the same. Boom, you a SASS member? Me too.
 

Thunder16

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p.s. Is this something I should have been able to identify when I bought the boat? How would I know without boring holes? Thanks.
 

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rotten or rotting flooring is about the worst thing you can buy and it's one of the harder things to identify, especially if you don't know to look for it. <br /><br />if you have to tear this one apart to fix it up, you'll know more than you ever thought you would.<br /><br />there are the tell-tale soft spots in the floor, soft spots under seats where wet vests have been stored, peaking around under seats and storage compartments you can sometimes find rotting pieces of wood that have splintered off, sometimes you can smell the stench. <br /><br />did the bilge pump run alot on this boat? was the bilge area dirty?<br /><br />my flooring is getting soft so i've been watching these threads for a while in preparation. i haven't cut any inspection holes in mine, yet but i think one of the exhausts lets lake water in (inboard). my bilge is somewhat nasty and when i compare it to other boats that don't take on water and have clean bilges, the nasty bilge is a dead giveaway that something could be much better.
 

Thunder16

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Re: Water in Hull

Salty, I never got the boat in the water so I don't know if the bilge pump ran a lot. But this water never went into the bilge or out the drain hole; it was under the bilge in the "sealed" compartments. When I pulled up the old carpet, I could see where inspection holes had been cut and patched at some time in the past, but these were not done by the last owner. The deck itself seems very solid.
 
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