Water logged Mako?

Kris33

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I recently aquired a 1984 20 ft Mako. The boat was beat up by the previous owner and stored for the past 2+ years outside with no cover. i spent the past few weekends working on the 89 150 Evinrude and finally got it to run. i figured there was no reason to work on the rest if the engine didn't run. There is a removable deck cover partially under the center console. The seam under your feet while standing at the controls has water leaking out. It comes out more when you put some weight on it. I removed the round cover under the console and there was water right to the top. I think it is access to the gas tank sending unit. There is another rectangle cover just up front and still under the console. I removed this and again there was water in the void where there is no floatation. I am concerned that there is water under the whole floor. Two areas of concern. The bow, just below the bump rail has a hole about 4" x 4". I guess one too many dock rams. There is also a large crack on the bottom of the front floor well. I just don't know the internals well enough to know if water entered through one of these two areas if it would eventually drain into the bilge and exit. Should I be concerned? Is there a way to test further. I was thinking of drilling a few small holes in the bottom of the hull?
 

Bass Runner

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Re: Water logged Mako?

NO don't drill the hull, if you want to check it for being water logged, get a small hole saw (the kind that goes in a drill, find out where there the floatation is in your boat from mfg. ect. then drill a test hole into the floatation through the floor, if it's soaked up bet you have some rot to structure, look at the wood deck if it has one for dry rot, do you have any soft spots in the floor? if so you are looking at a rebuild or another boat sounds like the previous owner didn't take very good care of it. Hope this helps. Boat Rebuild
 

Kris33

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Re: Water logged Mako?

Bass Runner,<br />Thanks for the reply. The boat has a fiberglass floor so the is no topside indication of rot. I was wondering if there was water if it would drain to the bilge. As long as there was enough pitch towards the back.
 

Bass Runner

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Re: Water logged Mako?

It will unless the flotation is water logged, then you have a problem once the water is traped in there the foam acts more like a sponge and won't release it, are you sure there isn't wood under the jel coat on the floor, see if you can't contact a dealer or friend that know something about your make boat i would think it's wood with jelcoat over it, if it is find where the foam is in your boat then drill some test holes in the foam if you don't find any water just replace the plugs you drilled out with the hole saw and f/glass them back in.
 

Captn Dave

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Re: Water logged Mako?

The foam is closed cell so it shouldn't have absorbed water.<br />If I were you I would unscrew and lift the console high enough to remove the cover for the fuel tank. If you had as much water in that compartment as you said you did, you'd never dry it out any other way. <br />It's possible the water never got down below the tank. Most fuel tank compartments are sealed. A Grady White that I had, had a plug on the aft bulkhead. The Mako that I now have, doesn't. <br />But to be sure, I would drill a hole through the foam at the aft end of the compartment and see if there is any water down there. If there is, try sucking it out. <br />Good luck and let us know how you made out.
 

Kris33

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Re: Water logged Mako?

Wave,<br />Its is good to heard about the closed cell floatation. I know that I should remove the gas tank cover. This would put my mind at ease. There are two things that I am concerned about. One, there are 2 pvc pipes comming out of the the tank lid. They are chases to run wire/antenna up the side. They are epoxyed/fiberglassed to the cover. I will have to cut around the pipes to free from the cover. I am not sure I can raise the console enough to get a screwdriver on the front screws of the cover. The steering and control cables may not have enough play. I guess it is a decision I will have to make. Anybody else familiar with this boat. If water entered through the hole in the front would it drain into the bilge?
 

navigator336

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Re: Water logged Mako?

Have you removed the stern access hatch? You'll be able to see alot through that cover. I had a '78 21'CC Mako several years ago. These are quality boats. As I recall, the deck does have marine plywood sandwiched between glass, but the workmanship on the fiberglass is excellent with no drips, dry areas or excess resin. Therefore, the chances are the wood is still intact. The stringers are very well glassed in. As was already pointed out the foam is closed cell and will be fine. As to the stern bulkhead isolating the tank area, I don't know, but Mako will. I would be surprised if any water that goes below deck does not have a drain path to the stern. If your anchor locker has a drain into the bilge, then you're probably O.K. <br /><br />I'd put the boat on the trailer, raise the bow up, pull the plug and drain it for a few hours. Then level it out, take a wet/dry vacuum (with filter removed), tape a piece of silicone tubing to the vacuum hose, push the silicone tubing through the tank sender access cover around the side of the tank and see if you can suck up any water. When you're all done, put the stern access hatch back on, remove the access port cover, leave the tank sender access port open, put the regular vaccum hose into the stern access port and suck air through the boat for several hours (on a nice warm and ideally dry day).
 

Kris33

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Re: Water logged Mako?

Thanks for the reply. When you say stern access hatch do you mean the cover for the bilge area? The only access covers/hatches I have are...1 large partially under the center console. There is one small rectangle in the large and a 6" round in the large cover. I have the front propped up (I need to get it higher) and there is always a little pool of water in the bilge. Not quite enough to get over the lip to the drain hole. I have been sucking this out for three days once in the morning before work and once when I get home. There is always a little water...maybe a half quart or so. I am thinking that any water trapped under the floor is working its way out. Do you think if I called Mako they could tell me if water under the floor will drain?
 

navigator336

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Re: Water logged Mako?

My '78 was outboard powered as well, so I'm assuming (maybe incorrectly) that the access areas are similar. I had the arrangement you describe under the console. I'm pretty sure your hull design will be self bailing like mine was (water that comes over the top, runs out the back). Mine had a gate that lifted up to prevent trailing seas from washing the stern. With this gate up, there was a 6" diameter access port installed in a screwed in place access hatch about 14" by 4 feet. To get it out you just cut through the sealer and took out the screws. With this out there was excellent access to the bait tank plumbing, bilge pump, trim tab pump, trim and tilt control unit, etc. It's been about 10 years since I had this boat and 15 years since I had this hatch open, so I don't recall how easy it was to see around the bait tank which was immediately forward of the hatch.<br /><br />Yes, Mako will know for sure and probably has some good schematics which will help.
 

Northern Eclipse

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Re: Water logged Mako?

If its draining that much then water is trapped, see if you can run a snake up the drains maybe you have bunch on debris up in there.If the boat is filled foam floatation it can soak up water and lots of it and add weight I have repaired a couple of boats with that condition, and that stuff was water logged, since most manufactures use a 2 part expanding foam its a b&tch to remove, and will never dry out once wet ,do as suggested by drilling a small hole with holesaw to get core sample if snakeing the drain don't work.
 

Knightgang

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Re: Water logged Mako?

Not to take anything away from Iboats, but you may want to take a look at www.classicmako.com . It is a site dedicated to Mako boats and you can browse through the projects section. This might give you more of an idea about your boat and the condition that it might be in and better ways to fix it, with pictures. THey have a forum as well, and I am sure that there will be another member on that board that has dealt with the saem exact situation that you have.
 
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