water passage crack

splitshot

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1977 140 Johnson...i have a hair line crack in the port side lower water passage (under bottom cylinder) it is about an inch long and is literally the width of a hair...last time i had it out i noticed some water in the lower cowl and i rubbed the spot and it was wet...but i didnt think this...its the water passage only...the head gasket was fine...the spark plug was good too (not water washed)...what is the block made out of and can it be welded...and what would be a fair price...i have looked the head over and put a straight edge across it...it is not warped at all....i will try to get a pic tomorrow thanks
 

79Rude115

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Re: water passage crack

I had a 77 115 that had a 1" wide chunk of metal pushed out on the bottom of one of the water jackets right where it meets the head. Apparently the previous owner did not properly winterize it and the water froze and cracked the water jacket fairly severely. I took it to the mechanic and was told that the motor was junk, there is no way to fix it.

I recalled an old trick I learned back in middle school GMR working on lawn mower engines with cracked blocks...J-B Weld

Mind you the water jacket is under very little pressure, it isn?t like the combustion chamber, I think it is maybe 5 PSI

Here is how I fixed mine:
1) Order new head gasket
2) Remove head ( once the head is off don?t remove those rubber tubes around the inside of the water jacket, they are for a very important purpose, if you need to remove one to make the repairs make sure you put it back where you found it)
3) Trim the motor to where you can get at the inside of the crack easiest
4) Clean cracked area with acetone meticulously from both sides (inside and out). Use a dentist tool if needed to get down into the crack but be careful not to make it worse.
5) Put a piece of duct tape on the under side of the crack making sure it is as close to the metal as possible
6) Apply J-B Weld liberally from the inside but don?t apply so much that it will block the flow of water, again use the dentist tool to push the J-B Weld down into the crack
7) Trim the motor all the way down and let the J-B Weld seep down into the crack
8) Remove any excess that would potentially black the flow of water
9) Allow to cure for 24 hrs in HOT sun or under a heat lamp
10) Remove any old gasket material from the head and the block with a razor blade and fine sand paper
11) put the head back on, make sure to use the factory torque sequence and torque to proper ft/lbs per manual
 

iwombat

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Re: water passage crack

You can also just find a good aluminum welder and have it welded. The fix will be anywhere from $25 - $150 depending on what a pain in the **** it is, and how well the welder likes you.
 

Benny1963

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Re: water passage crack

yes mig with argon ,the boat guy i use charges 65 hr for cast aluminum
he charged me 1 hr for thre 1 inch weld om my lower unit
 

79Rude115

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Re: water passage crack

I considered having mine welded but it would have required pulling the powerhead because of the location (under one of the bottom cylinders). I think this is where most cracks tend to be as that is where water collects when the motor is trimmed down.

Welding it is probably a better solution however there would be no way of welding from the inside and a weld isn't likely to penetrate a hairline crack but it would definitely be stronger...but then again who cares it is under minimal pressure unless you let it freeze again.

I ran mine hard for 5 years with the J-B Weld fix before i sold it and it never leaked a drip
 

iwombat

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Re: water passage crack

When you weld up a crack you usually grind out the crack first so the weld penetrates. If it's accessible, that's the preferred method. If not, JB weld is certainly worth a try.
 
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