what anchor to use

wicked

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i have a 15.5 ft ski boat with a 15lbs navy anchor that will not seem to hold the boat in one place, should i get a grappling anchor for it and how good are these anchors
 

SeanT

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Re: what anchor to use

Navy anchors are like the ones commonly tattooed on people right? :D

I have one of those 7lb brydon-types of anchors that hook the ground. I also read (just last night in fact), that if you then attach a length of chain _before_ your line, the chain will help absorb shock of the boat pulling, helping the anchor to stay grounded. I don't have the chain yet, but I'm going to buy one.
 

BBK1

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Re: what anchor to use

I cary two 25lb anchors for my 17ft deep V. Takes a lot of weight to hold it down in current.
 

haskindm

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Re: what anchor to use

How much anchor rode are you using? The general rule is that it should be about 6-1 in good weather, so if you are anchoring in 50' of water you will need 300' of line. A length of chain between your rpe and the anchor will also help the anchor dig into the bottom and increas its holding power.
 

Adamf24

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Re: what anchor to use

Navy anchors are like the ones commonly tattooed on people right? :D

I have one of those 7lb brydon-types of anchors that hook the ground. I also read (just last night in fact), that if you then attach a length of chain _before_ your line, the chain will help absorb shock of the boat pulling, helping the anchor to stay grounded. I don't have the chain yet, but I'm going to buy one.

Chains also help protect the anchor line if you are anchor in jagged areas, as well as help keep the anchor to boat angle lower than if you had just an anchor line attached to the anchor.

And I recommend the fluke anchor. With a box anchor (google it) as a backup/stern anchor.
 

wicked

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Re: what anchor to use

How much anchor rode are you using? The general rule is that it should be about 6-1 in good weather, so if you are anchoring in 50' of water you will need 300' of line. A length of chain between your rpe and the anchor will also help the anchor dig into the bottom and increas its holding power.

deepest i have been in was 45 feet so i need 270 feet of rope holy sh*t are you sure thats a lotta rope and the chain i will try
 

ThePostMan

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Re: what anchor to use

A 15lb navy anchor, properly set, will hold my 20ft cc just fine in Ohio River currents. I have a 7lb digger anchor as a backup, in case I ever need to set two (i.e. current one direction, strong wind/waves from the opposite direction).

So, yes, your anchor will hold your boat if proprly set. I generally use 5:1 rode as a rule of thumb, so 100 ft of anchor line is required to anchor in 20ft of water. It's not about the anchor's weight as much as it is how it is set.
 

Expidia

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Re: what anchor to use

I too have a 15 foot boat, so I like to keep the weight on board at a minimum.

Like the other poster has said it's not the anchor "it's the chain" that's more important and letting out enough line which doing that and the chain to keep the anchor digging into the sand or muddy lake bottom.

I use the plastic coated rhode chain so it does not scratch my rig on those last few feet when pulling it back on board. I have 100 feet of line connected to it. If you freq deep waters you might want 150 ft. I'd get a smaller diameter which takes up less room but the trade off is it knots easier.
(and don't get that plastic crap).
http://www.iboats.com/Greenfield_Pv...16116802--**********.573596846--view_id.38016

I personally use the grapnel style cause I like the way it folds up. But if you have room in your locker in my opinion the best anchor for all around conditions would be the Dansforth fluke style

http://www.iboats.com/Danforth_Stan...16116802--**********.573596846--view_id.40419

Start with a good anchor and a length of chain and then you can google various techniques on how to hook up lines for better holding power.

Use a second (smaller) anchor tossed off the transom to prevent your boat from swinging around and loosen up your front anchor or swinging into another boat.
 

wicked

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Re: what anchor to use

I too have a 15 foot boat, so I like to keep the weight on board at a minimum.

Like the other poster has said it's not the anchor "it's the chain" that's more important and letting out enough line which doing that and the chain to keep the anchor digging into the sand or muddy lake bottom.

I use the plastic coated rhode chain so it does not scratch my rig on those last few feet when pulling it back on board. I have 100 feet of line connected to it. If you freq deep waters you might want 150 ft. I'd get a smaller diameter which takes up less room but the trade off is it knots easier.
(and don't get that plastic crap).
http://www.iboats.com/Greenfield_Pv...16116802--**********.573596846--view_id.38016

I personally use the grapnel style cause I like the way it folds up. But if you have room in your locker in my opinion the best anchor for all around conditions would be the Dansforth fluke style

http://www.iboats.com/Danforth_Stan...16116802--**********.573596846--view_id.40419

Start with a good anchor and a length of chain and then you can google various techniques on how to hook up lines for better holding power.

Use a second (smaller) anchor tossed off the transom to prevent your boat from swinging around and loosen up your front anchor or swinging into another boat.

where do you put all your anchor line from not triping on it, i have a closed bow so i just tie of to the side and nearest cleat
 

SeanT

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Re: what anchor to use

I'm not really sure stern anchors are a great idea unless its very short term stuff. You want the boat swinging around to face the wind and the waves.
 

Expidia

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Re: what anchor to use

where do you put all your anchor line from not triping on it, i have a closed bow so i just tie of to the side and nearest cleat

Depending on how handy you are you could cut in a small hatch. Some boaters with closed bows will tie off the line at the bow and run the line back along the side of the boat.so you can keep the extra line under the bow. 3/8th or smaller line does not make that big a pile.

Why not post a pic of your boat and it's bow, so some posters can give you some ideas or alternatives.
 

BBK1

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Re: what anchor to use

I only keep 50' on them. I normally anchor in 10-15' and I let out about 15-20' slack. No need to let out 300' of line unless your planning on staying in that spot for days.
 

highN'dry

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Re: what anchor to use

I have a 5 lb. Fortress type for our 19 foot BW. I keep a 12 lb. mushroom for beach anchoring. I carry up to 600 feet of rode and a chain. We anchor in as much as 100 feet for diving and the boat needs to stay. Usually, even in mild current or wave I don't run out the full 600 feet (if in 100 feet). Usually a 3:1 scope will hold in mild conditions. If significant current or wave then I run out to a 6:1 scope.

You should not stern anchor where the boat could be exposed to significant weather or current, this is a good way to have it sucked under and flipped.
 
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