What kinda kicker/get-home for an I/O?

MarkC

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Hello, <br /><br />I've restored a '69 Glastron 16' closed-bow I/O runabout, with a 120HP Mercruiser. I use the boat (off a trailer) with my family on smallish lakes and on waterways in the California Delta (fishing, swimming, camping). I've encountered enough surprises to understand the value of having another power option, both as a get-home fallback and for low-speed maneuvering (including trolling).<br /><br />I'm dithering about whether to go electric or gas, though. (Either way, I'll be looking for used/inexpensive stuff.) If you compare electric and gas setups with same total weight, I guess there are these differences: <br /><br />Electric: quieter, lower motor maintenance, probably greater reliability, foot-control (steering, starting) standard with motor. Plus I already have a nice (second) deep-cycle battery sitting in the garage.<br /><br />Gas: more power (from what I understand it'd be hard to get the equivalent of 3hp in an electric with any kind of range), greater range, have to recharge battery. Would need more work to make a control set-up (tie sterndrive to motor so that I can use the steering wheel for both, and add a second control/shift box for the outboard). <br /><br />I'm tempted to think this: as a get-home, a 3hp (or so) gas motor is the better option for me; as a convenient low-speed kicker, electric makes more sense. So I mainly need to decide which is more important. Is that right? Any advice and reports of your experiences would be very useful. If you think gas is the way to go, I'd be especially interested in ideas for how to mount/control it. <br /><br />Thanks!<br /><br />Mark
 

RTDcanuck

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Re: What kinda kicker/get-home for an I/O?

HI, well i don't really have a big boat just a small 14ft but I was resently in your shoes. Hmm gas or electric? Well I decided electric it's not as noisy more reliable and it's in most cases cheaper or at least cheaper to maintain. Considering the fact that you won't be using it as a main engine so the power differnce doesn't really matter I'd say electric. Although it is your decision!!<br /><br />------------------<br />9((=< Canuck friends of fisherman everywhere!!
 

mbb

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Re: What kinda kicker/get-home for an I/O?

Electric may be ok on lakes, etc when you dont need to go but a couple miles. I have used my trolling motor to do that when I blew a head gasket once. My bayboat now has yamaha high thrust kicker that can take me home at 6mph at 1/2 throttle, the small 6 gal tank I carry with regular gas will give me about 70 mile range on it alone, but Ive burned my 50:1 premix in it too with no problem, so range is basically unlimited. Not so with electric.
 

MarkC

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Re: What kinda kicker/get-home for an I/O?

Thanks, guys. Hey Mbb, on your bay boat, how do you have the kicker rigged (starting, steering, controls)?
 

Yepblaze

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Re: What kinda kicker/get-home for an I/O?

I'm using a small honda for a kicker on my 16' Glasspar. I have enough room on the transom for both motors to reside, and have the honda pivot screw tight so it doesn't pivot. It is only the 2hp model and doesn't have forward or neutral but does just fine trolling the delta, rivers, and lakes using the main motor as a rudder. It'll probably push me up to near three mph wide open. I just get idleing along in the direction I intend to troll on my main motor, start up the kicker, sit down, pop the main in neutral, shut it off, and control the direction from my steering wheel quite well. If something comes up that needs imediate attention, I start up the main engine and override the little kicker putting away. If I snag out or need to fight a big one I stand up push the kill button on the kicker, and get with business.
 

MarkC

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Re: What kinda kicker/get-home for an I/O?

Interesting idea, Yepblaze! I hadn't thought of using the outdrive as a rudder, but why not? <br /><br />Hey, I think I may know you from your big-fish pics on Fiberglassics. The best I've done so far (3 outings) are 15" stripers (which my 7yo claims as his catches). But I'm having a blast.
 

Yepblaze

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Re: What kinda kicker/get-home for an I/O?

Yep thats me. The little honda is probably a little slow for stripers although we did manage a fat pair of limits out of miner slough with it. Right now it's been out to the American River trolling the lower dredger holes waiting for the salmon, real early in the mornings. The motor works great for that as I need to go real real slow and have the idle turned down real low.
 

MarkC

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Re: What kinda kicker/get-home for an I/O?

Sounds like it works just fine for you. I'll hit you up for some salmon-fishing advice in a month or two when they get a bit more plentiful (the way I hear it). I'm guessing my lone fishing technique (put-bait-on-hook-and-dangle-near-weeds) might need to be supplemented.
 

gfpk

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Re: What kinda kicker/get-home for an I/O?

I have a 6hp evirude fisherman. It has got me home from 20 miles away. With an inboard I would consider a 4 stroke, you won,t have to mix gas.
 

mbb

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Re: What kinda kicker/get-home for an I/O?

the yammie kicker has a center lock position so you can leave it alone and steer with the main engine acting as rudder. Having this in water doesnt slow it one bit at the slow speed. Mine turns great to the side opposite the kicker like this, and very slooowly to the side the kicker is on because the thrust is off the centerline of the boat. I havent played with the idea of repositioning the centerlock pin so that the motors thrust is angled to compensate for this yet, but it should work and barely affect speed.
 

MarkC

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Re: What kinda kicker/get-home for an I/O?

Thanks for the advice, people. I'm now in the market for a good used 4-stroke motor of about 4-6hp.
 
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