what to look for

ctown

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Hello Everyone,

I am currntly looking for a boat and i dont know what size to get. I have 3 kids and me and my wife and would like to be able to take 9 people out on the water at a time at least. i would def want a bathroom and sleeping qaurters on board for at least me my wife and our three children. What size and style should i be looking for? is there any brands that we should be running toward or away from? i would like to be able to do all of the normale water activities such as fish, water ski tubing and so forth

Thanks for any help
ctown
 

DC20

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Re: what to look for

Whatever it is, it sounds big! Are you able to tow a big boat or would you keep it at a Marina?
 

tx1961whaler

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Re: what to look for

Fish, tube, ski, 9 person capacity, sleeps 5, with head?
There will be a serious compromise somewhere.
 

rivermouse

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Re: what to look for

48495_837634.jpgThis 30 foot chappy should solve things..............of course if you have to ask how much maybe you need to keep on a looking.......This little baby will run 40 mph in open seas so pulling a few kids on a tube wont be hard.
 

Cowboyup94

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Re: what to look for

I read 9 people and thought, "o ok, pontoon boat". Then I read tube, fish, and sleep. Hope you have deep pockets! In my mind I think your looking for a pontoon boat. Hell if you want to sleep put a tent and blow up matress on the deck!
 

Silly Seville

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Re: what to look for

Let's not presume this fellow is of modest means. He may have just won the lottery or had a windfall inheritance and money is no object. It is possible. Taking everything into consideration based on his stated criteria, I would suggest a Sea Ray 410 Sundancer.

Like this...http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2003-Sea-Ray-410-Sundancer-97485836

If the OP doesn't mind something older, a Sedan Bridge would be even better!

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1999-Sea-Ray-400-Sedan-Bridge-97272414
 

ctown

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Re: what to look for

thanks everyone for the responses, i guess i do need to trim it down a bit. I am on active duty and i just want something that me and my family of 5 could go out on and have fun when im home. Im not worried about putting in a lil work or having to get an older boat. I am a ABYC certified electrician and i know plenty of people that are marine mechanics, i just wanted to know what size and brand i should be leaning toward.

Once again thanks for all the responces
ctown
 

ctown

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Re: what to look for

I read 9 people and thought, "o ok, pontoon boat". Then I read tube, fish, and sleep. Hope you have deep pockets! In my mind I think your looking for a pontoon boat. Hell if you want to sleep put a tent and blow up matress on the deck!

i am maily concerned with getting my family of 5 out there on the water and it would be nice to take a couple more
 

Cowboyup94

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Re: what to look for

In the case of brands, I am a large fan of Boston whaler and Glastron.

Boston Whaler had an ad where they cut there boat in half and a guy drove the side with the motor around the statue of liberty. Walers are "unsinkable"

Safety and quality does come with a price! There are tons of other boats though. Figure out the top needs you want. If tubing, fishing, and cruising are your goal I would tell you center console or open bow.
 

Philster

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Re: what to look for

Something along these lines: Sea Ray deck boat circa 2002 forward. Deck boats have a bit more girth to accommodate the occasional larger crowd. When loaded up, puttering along is okay in calm water. More people = less control. The engine's ability to lift the bow up is more important than steering sometimes.

Also, at your price range, stay 2002 or newer (probably newer). Don't bother looking at anything older.

I have a 24' open bow rated for 9 people, and it'll require an emergency condition before 9 people get on my boat. We are a family of six, and if someone hitches a short ride, I will scoot them somewhere. But 6 is my limit, and I have a big bow and plenty of floor space.

9 people is impractical in almost all situations for any 'runabouts'. Most runabout boats can't do water sports with more than 4 people on board (maybe 5) plus whatever they are pulling.

Here's an example (scroll down to the Sea Ray with blue canvas):

http://www.downhomeroots.com/3riv/preowned.html

(just an idea... other will have some)
 

coastalrichard

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Re: what to look for

I agree with Philster. I have a 21' deckboat rated for 10. There's absolutely NO WAY I would put that many on it. In fact, I find that most rigs are rated for twice as many bodies as I would feel comfortable with as far as roominess. Good Luck in your search!
 

haulnazz15

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Re: what to look for

I agree that a compromise is going to need to be made. Once you get into "sleeping quarters" for more than two people, you venture into the cruisers, which starts to leave out most watersports and towing as well. For the record, I don't consider a cuddy cabin as being sleeping quarters, it's more of a place to simmer in your own juices, lol. The modern deckboat in the 22-24' range would likely fit the bill the best. Room for your family and maybe a tag along or two, capable of towing tubes/skiers without a ton of undue stress, and that size range will usually come with a small enclosed head for when the marina or water won't do. Deckboats often have a nice open platform at the bow to make fishing easier.
 

Home Cookin'

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Re: what to look for

Your requirements and limits conflict. I am assuming you also have little or no experience.

First, safety. If you are boating in the coastal regions of Boston, forget deck boats, pontoons or typical bowriders. They are for lakes. You need a seaworthy hull, and a dry design. See "capacity" below.

Second, manageability. Something that sleeps 5 and carries 9 will not be a trailer boat. If you insist on trailering you need serious towing capacity, serious ($$$) storage and hauling and ramp skills.

Third, size v. water sports. You can tube behind an aircraft carrier. But anything over 22' is not suited for water sports--not only will you go broke on gas, it's not manueverable enough for fast starts and turn-arounds to pick up the fallen. And since watersports are usually done in small bodies of water (to get smooth water) I think it is dangerous to operate large vessels in close quarters when (typically) others are using it, too. Now, if you just want to drag the 6 year old around in the tube, fine. (Yes I know lots of people do watersports behind big boats, just my opinion).

Fourth, sleeping. Take a hard look at this one. For the typical family, you would seldom sleep on the boat. If you do, you are into "cruising" which is very different than the Saturday boater. You need a big boat and big bucks. You would save money in the long run just taking the open boat to a marina destination and getting a room there. So start without the sleeping quarters and move up. And if your girls are the type who can manage camping, you don't need a head in a cabin. Avoid the cabin and you have flexibility.

Fifth, capacity. You need lots of open space. A boat rated for 9 is comfortable for 6. Factor in how many passengers are small children, too. (Realistically are you taking that many people each time?) Maximize open space by design. Outboard motor, no wrap -around dashboards and sweeping windshields and sofa seating. Now, a 24' carolina Skiff is rated for something ridiculous like 15 but you have ample room in it. Look at them and also at Sea Chaser for an inexpensive, light small cabin boat with lots of room--and it's seaworthy. Look at center consoles with built-in bow seating--sea hunt, contender, regulator or dual console key west, sea hunt, etc.

Sixth, budget. If you have $20,000 to spend, your boat can't be more than $18,000, plus you need to be able to put $2000 in for repairs at any time. The older the boat, the more you need for start-up and reserve. In your case, you need to spend more at the front end and buy reliability. That means a newer boat--and therefore a smaller boat.

Seventh, timing. Buy a used boat this week and you won't be on the water until July 15. Buy one that needs a little work, and it will be August 1 at the earliest. Short season in Mass. unless you are hearty and have a dry boat!

How to shop--go look at new boats at dealers and on line to get your size and style. Take your wife and walk around the marinas and boat lots. Only then start looking for used ones that match your needs and ability.

I would start you in a fiour year old 19' Grady center console with a 150 if I had the magic wand. That's what I steered my sister's family to. Worked out great. Or a 21' carolina Skiff for maximum bang for the buck.
 

skagit17

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Re: what to look for

Lots of great advice here and some good experience. the perfect boat is seaworthy, fast, light when you are towing it and heavy when you're out at sea, is 21 feet long when you are paying moorage, but has the interior of a 40 footer, is low to the water for fishing and waterspouts, but has a lot of freeboard for seaworthiness. :)

My friend has a 1998 Sea Ray 210 with a large v-8 I/0 setup, merc alpha one out drive and a power prop. It is a bowrider with captains chairs and a bench seat in the back. We have went out with 5 adults and 4 kids several times and as long as everyone stays seated most of the time it was fine. We cruised at 26-28 knots and were out for several hours. This is summertime on the Columbia river, not the open ocean.
 

Home Cookin'

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Re: what to look for

"We have went out with 5 adults and 4 kids several times and as long as everyone stays seated most of the time it was fine. "

That's a very important point as to capacity and something that varies on how a boat is used. There may be a place to sit for everyone, which is fiine for adults just riding around and looking, but that doesn't work for children, fishing, water sports, etc. Storage space comes into play real quick, too--food and drink coolers, towels, maybe jackets/raingear/dry clothes plus all that assorted junk that each passenger invariably shows up with. Remember you have to at least store enough PFD's for everyone, too.
and then there's the tube, skis, ski lines and harness, wakeboard, fishing poles, bait cooler, fish cooler, beach toys...
Then, if there is any wind, there may be a wet side--if there's no extra room someone has to put on the skins and weather it. Few people sit in the stern seats while you are running (at least in smaller boats). And a full boat is a wet boat. This is especially important in Mass.

So unless you've done it yourself, you have to get the whole crew to pile into the boat you are looking at and see how it goes. Or hand out at the marina/ramps and look at the body count and space left in the various boats you see being used.
 
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