whats holds my 135 to the bracket

jpendergrass

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So i got the 76' 135 mounted to my new cmc pt130 and mounted on the new/old stratos 274fs. I can grab the lower end and swing it out from the bracket? With the original tnt, it held that it place so it wouldnt kick out. I do see holes on both sides of bracket but shouldnt a pin go thru those to hold the motor from kicking out? Maybe this is how its designed, just alittle worried. Thanks for answering my dumb question. I can include pics
 

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Re: whats holds my 135 to the bracket

I thinks pics are a good idea. Something just doesn't sound right.
 

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Re: whats holds my 135 to the bracket

Yes, a tilt pin (thrust rod as OMC called them) is needed to prevent the motor from kicking up when you remove the "backpack style" trim and tilt assembly. The tilt piston would prevent the motor from kicking up in reverse. FWIW - the trim piston would not.

You would of course rotate the port side tilt lever to the down/locked position.

However, if it was a factory installed T&T some of the reverse locking parts may not have been installed.

What do you have?
 

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Re: whats holds my 135 to the bracket

On the units with no power trim, there is a spring-loaded locking mechanism inside the swivel bracket. You have the option to "release" or "lock" this mechanism. When locked, the locking lever grabs onto the tilt pin which you mentioned. That keeps the engine from raising up when in reverse. Not sure if the factory installs all that mechanism when trim is purchased. You can check out the factory parts list at their website: epc.brp.com It's part of the exhaust housing diagram.
 

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Re: whats holds my 135 to the bracket

Thx for the quick replies. I cannot figure out how to post pics from my droid, sorry. And dask, I'm not sure if it was a factory installed tnt but it was certainly factory omc but i now have installed a cmc tnt
 

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Re: whats holds my 135 to the bracket

Thx for the quick replies. I cannot figure out how to post pics from my droid, sorry. And dask, I'm not sure if it was a factory installed tnt but it was certainly factory omc but i now have installed a cmc tnt

I understand your situation. Do you have a lock lever on the port side?
 

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Re: whats holds my 135 to the bracket

Dask, not sure. There is a arm in the center that i believe is only used to lock it in the up position, but no other "lever" that i see
 

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Re: whats holds my 135 to the bracket

Ttt. Looking for dask and emdsapmgr for some help:):)
 

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Re: whats holds my 135 to the bracket

Did you compare the mechanism you have under the swivel bracket with the factory parts list from their website?
 

jpendergrass

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Re: whats holds my 135 to the bracket

Man, i work at a gm dealership and that parts diagram is a son of a bi***, i'll let ya know
 

jpendergrass

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Re: whats holds my 135 to the bracket

It looks as though, part #120 - locking lever, and its components do not exist on mine since i had factory tnt. All i have is #123 - trail lock arm. I better figure out a way to lock her down, huh?
 

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Re: whats holds my 135 to the bracket

Ok, So as I mentioned before, you lack the "Gizzards" to latch to the tilt pin.

Now, that motor would have come with a shock absorber that would not provide as much tilt pressure relief as the non-trim version.

Many folks ran those earlier motors in the "tilt/up" setting to ensure it would come out of the water easier should the lower unit strike an underwater object...They would also live with a motor that would tip up upon strong reverse power. In the 70's it was like 90% that would not lock it down.

As the motors came equipped with shocks that produced significant upward force (thus easier to tilt), locking it down became more of a necessity.

On to your motor... While I have seen the CMC units, you'll need to check with CMC to determine if the unit is designed to lift upon striking an underwater object.

That said, I can assure you you do not want to hunt down the parts and install them to lock down the motor. VERY complicated.

For the moment, and others may have other suggestions, you could simply use a big zip tie(s) likely running from the top tilt pin position across to the opposite tilt hole and back. Generally speaking, only the colored ties(black most common) are rated for exterior use(UV protection).

For the era, your combo was unusual -still - great motors that would only die from neglect.

Hope that helps.
 

jpendergrass

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Re: whats holds my 135 to the bracket

Dask, as usual great informative reply. Yes it has been a great motor, unbreakable (knock on wood). Yes, the motor does have 2 inner shocks but seem very weak and do not provide much downforce. With the original leaking tnt, i ran a long bolt thru the 1st hole (closest to motor) to keep the engine up in a decent trim level. But i dont understand the zip tie concept to prevent the motor from kicking up. What is the top tilt pin???
 

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Re: whats holds my 135 to the bracket

With the original leaking tnt, i ran a long bolt thru the 1st hole (closest to motor) to keep the engine up in a decent trim level.

Ok, same concept using the outermost holes. Drop the motor to it's lowest position. Now capture the motor/swivel bracket in the low position by running a heavy duty zip tie across between the starboard and port "5" holes.

You used a homemade tilt pin to prevent/limit forward movement, now you'll simply do the reverse and prevent outward movement - without being as strong...

Because, without knowing whether the CMC unit is designed to release when hitting an underwater object, I wouldn't suggest bolting it down.

Easy to test, run it firmly in reverse and see if you need more than one tie - they're cheap.

Just to confuse matters more and as a 2nd option..."start with the 1st"

The swivel bracket should have holes that would have been drilled for non trim models that could also be used. I think you would need 2 separate ties... Look under the swivel bracket to see these holes. They are inboard of the pads that contact the "Thrust Rod" or tilt pin as it's more commonly referred to...aka your homemade rod you installed.
 
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