When 2-stroke fuel is mixed, does it stay mixed?

UpstNYer

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Lots of posts about which 2-stroke oil is best. Lots about disabling oil injection. But what about disabling oil injection when you have a built-in fuel tank? Does oil that's been mixed with fuel in a large built-in tank stay uniformly mixed throughout the tank? Or, after sitting a week or two, is it 30:1 at the bottom and 70:1 at the top? Any difference between synthetics and dino oil in this regard?<br /><br />Was always taught to shake up the fuel can prior to use when tanks were 3 or 6 gallon portables. What about a 24 gallon built-in?<br />Bob
 

Tracy Coleman

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Re: When 2-stroke fuel is mixed, does it stay mixed?

#1 If the gas and oil is mixed it stays mixed. To shake a small can or not, see #1. For people that fill the can and then pour in the oil, you better shake it up. I put the oil in first, then use the nozzle blast to mix the gas.<br />Backfire ;)
 

RJS

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Re: When 2-stroke fuel is mixed, does it stay mixed?

it's all about entropy (chaos). It will stay mixed.
 

ted655

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Re: When 2-stroke fuel is mixed, does it stay mixed?

I have always been warned to stay away from buying fuel at marinas, because the oil settles to the bottom of their large tanks. I stay away because of the cost, danger of water condensation and who knows how old the gas is, BUT I always did wonder if "some" of the additives did settle out over time. Any comments<br /><br />BTW; no offence intended to any honest marina owners.
 

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Re: When 2-stroke fuel is mixed, does it stay mixed?

The reason I posted this question originally was because of an experience I had breaking in a new 40HP Merc this summer. The Merc's oil-injected, but the breakin recommendation was that fuel be premixed at 50:1 for the first 10 hours or so to make sure oil injection was working and to provide extra oil for new, tight fitting parts.<br /><br />I mixed as Backfire recommends. Dumped enough 2-stroke oil (Quicksilver Premium Plus) in an empty gas can for 5 gallons of 50:1 and added 5 gallons of mid-grade gas from the pump. Shook the can up for good measure and dumped it in the nearly empty built in tank in the boat. Did the same thing a second time, giving me 10 gallons in the built in tank.<br /><br />Didn't get a chance to run the motor for the next 2 or 3 weeks. When I finally got out with it, I had a heckuva time keeping it running for the first half hour....and blue smoke was everywhere. I practically buried the launch ramp under a blue fog. Gradually, as the smoke died down, keeping the engine running became less of a problem. The engine's been a good starter and runner ever since....but I've not added anymore premix to the built in tank.<br /><br />Draw your own conclusions.<br />Bob
 

AUGIDAWG

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Re: When 2-stroke fuel is mixed, does it stay mixed?

Could it be the assembly oil, or a fogging oil that the Merc people used?<br />Maybe you fouled a plug during the first start up, and it finally started firing later.
 

UpstNYer

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Re: When 2-stroke fuel is mixed, does it stay mixed?

I dunno Augi. It didn't seem to be missing while it was spewing all the smoke. It's the 2 cylinder 40HP (2002) so it should've been evident.<br /><br />I've rebuilt a few engines in my time but never a 2-stroke. Always liberally coated Cylinder walls, valve stems and everything with STP or engine oil, but never had anything smoke like that. Would expect fogging/assembly oil to burn out in the first few minutes.<br />Bob
 

ted655

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Re: When 2-stroke fuel is mixed, does it stay mixed?

I have 2 20gal. tanks, set up with seperate lines and primer bulbs. I keep them both full to avoid condensation. I treat both with Stabil and Gumout carb cleaner. My boat sits in the water behind my house. I might not use it for weeks. While I try to go on 1 tank and return on the other, I forger sometime. The gas may be 1/2 or 3/4 full for months before I add fresh gas.<br />At no time have I had trouble with starting, idling, excessive smoke. Hope I'm doing right. Nothing stays over 4 months.
 

UpstNYer

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Re: When 2-stroke fuel is mixed, does it stay mixed?

Guess I'm probably wrong on this. Don't have alot of 2-stroke experience. Maybe Mercury packed the rod and main bearings in some kind of heavy lubricant that slowly dissolved in the fuel/air mixture entering the crankcase. That could explain all the smoke. <br /><br />If it's routine to leave mixed fuel sitting in built-in tanks for weeks without causing problems then, obviously, it must stay mixed.<br />Bob
 

Columbia

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Re: When 2-stroke fuel is mixed, does it stay mixed?

My little Suzuki six horse at 100/1 mix always smokes blue the first minute or three. I attribute this to cold/rich burning and less complete combustion of the oil until it warms up a bit.
 

rickdb1boat

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Re: When 2-stroke fuel is mixed, does it stay mixed?

Mercs are known for smoking at start-up anyway, so nothing to worry about.
 

rickdb1boat

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Re: When 2-stroke fuel is mixed, does it stay mixed?

Old sailor <br /><br />dead on!!
 
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