Where to install a Ladder on a Zodiac SIB?

[zodiac340m]

I mounted it at the back of the Transom where there is a loop below the engine. No can do. It didnt work at all.

Can I harness it between either the carrying handle and a grab line? See pic and let me know this is NOT my boat but the same kind. See the handle at the back and then the grab line or grab handles above the oars? Can I mount it on the handles or on the back rubber handle and a grab handle? If not what can i do? I have a fold up in all three steps once unfolded but it says 2 step alu ladder. It just did not work at all clasped safely to the loop in the inner of the transom. I nearly cut myself on the prop even tho it was up.

 

[galatian]

Re: Where to install a Ladder on a Zodiac SIB?

Take a 4 to 6 feet 1/4' rope make a loop at the one of the end large enough to put your foot in and the other end tie to a D-ring or for around 30 to 40 bucks you can one from west marine and you are in business easy to store . This the one from them or you can make it yourself http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wc...oreNum=10105&subdeptNum=10397&classNum=10398e

 

[Sea Rider]

Re: Where to install a Ladder on a Zodiac SIB?

Althought the model is quite simple, the disadvantage is that when climbing on board the bottoms steps tend to go under tubes, would need to have same unarticulated steps to be rigid and climb well, if possible, take sib near shore and climb onboard This is the requiered ladder for deep water adventures, don't ask me where to buy, make one at a alum shop.

Happy Boating

 

[zodiac340m]

Re: Where to install a Ladder on a Zodiac SIB?

I have a ladder, I dont need one. this is the type of ladder I have see link

http://www.yatego.com/potsdamer-boo...4b4203c4914e43_5,aluminium-schlauchbootleiter


I would like to know where to mount it, as transom didnt work. Can I attatch anohter rope and tie it both sides on handles or grab lines to give it more stability? Mone line in the middle didnt work it swang and I nearly got cut by prop. Just need to know if handles will support this when I try to climb back on?

 

[Sea Rider]

Re: Where to install a Ladder on a Zodiac SIB?

Zodie,

You could attach ladder rope to lateral seat holder if you are not using wooden seat at all, check which side is better to install. If you had a bigger engine could stand against cav plate and climb "welcome on board". Handles will support well depending how well are glued to tubes. Will need to use both as in lower pic example to avoid stress in just one when pulling to climb.

Happy Boating

 

[zodiac340m]

Re: Where to install a Ladder on a Zodiac SIB?

Zodie,

You could attach ladder rope to lateral seat holder if you are not using wooden seat at all, check which side is better to install. If you had a bigger engine could stand against cav plate and climb "welcome on board". Handles will support well depending how well are glued to tubes.

Happy Boating

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Cant do that as zodiac cadet does not have that kind of seat system. So it will have to be the handles then perhaps if I run rope from one side to the next as to not put too much force on one site of the boat handles then it may work?

 

[slance]

Re: Where to install a Ladder on a Zodiac SIB?

That ladder is designed to go over the tube for boarding. It is secured in a couple different ways depending on your boat.
1. An eye bolt that is installed in the transom to tie the ladder to.
2. A D-Ring to be installed on the tube to tie the ladder to.
3. A webbing strap (1 " polypropylene tie-down with ancra buckle) that is installed when the boat is put together and runs underneath the floorboards, going around the stringers athwartships. Then you can secure to that.
4. For your boat, if there is another person in it, you can probably go across the boat to the lifting handle on the tube on the opposite side, but I's rather there be a d-ring installed there that can handle the pull in the proper direction. It could eventually tear that molded Zodiac grab/lift handle.

I like the ladder you bought. It is a lightweight one from Italy.

Good luck.

S-

 

[fbpooler]

Re: Where to install a Ladder on a Zodiac SIB?

Zodiac340m, we have the smaller fast roller, and we would recommend you use a bolt through one of the existing holes in the transom. That ladder would then hang on the side of the tube, not out the back of the boat. I would not trust tieing to a lifting handle, but it may work.

If you plan on using the ladder a lot, perhaps you could have a d ring glued on a tube in a convenient location.

 

[zodiac340m]

Re: Where to install a Ladder on a Zodiac SIB?

That ladder is designed to go over the tube for boarding. It is secured in a couple different ways depending on your boat.
1. An eye bolt that is installed in the transom to tie the ladder to.
2. A D-Ring to be installed on the tube to tie the ladder to.
3. A webbing strap (1 " polypropylene tie-down with ancra buckle) that is installed when the boat is put together and runs underneath the floorboards, going around the stringers athwartships. Then you can secure to that.
4. For your boat, if there is another person in it, you can probably go across the boat to the lifting handle on the tube on the opposite side, but I's rather there be a d-ring installed there that can handle the pull in the proper direction. It could eventually tear that molded Zodiac grab/lift handle.

I like the ladder you bought. It is a lightweight one from Italy.

Good luck.

S-

Wow so many ways to secure it? I like the idea of hte under board, do you mean those harness straps you use to tie stuff with above car rack etc? Like canoe tie downs? that same thing? Only run it at the bottom. Will it not rip out the bottom right before my eyes? the ladder is ultra light and made in italy yes. Now if I tie it to the transom eye, I am to put the ladder to the SIDE of the tube right an dnot behind by the prop? Cant i then secure it to the life line or grab lines running alone the tube in addition to the eye?

 

[zodiac340m]

Re: Where to install a Ladder on a Zodiac SIB?

Zodiac340m, we have the smaller fast roller, and we would recommend you use a bolt through one of the existing holes in the transom. That ladder would then hang on the side of the tube, not out the back of the boat. I would not trust tieing to a lifting handle, but it may work.

If you plan on using the ladder a lot, perhaps you could have a d ring glued on a tube in a convenient location.[/QUOTE


I was giong to install a few d-rings because the cadet does not have many options for tieing things down. When you say a bolt what do you mean? the eye hole is in the transom where to I put a bolt and how? do you have a diagram for me or a pic please

 

[fbpooler]

Re: Where to install a Ladder on a Zodiac SIB?

I would think an eye bolt with washers and a wing nut would make a good attachment for the rope from the ladder. As you have an air floor, don't put a strap around the floor as an attachment point, or the floor could be damaged.

D-rings can be glued to the tubes and make a pretty secure attachment point. I am like you in that several d-rings would come in handy for securing equipment in the boat.

Does the boat have d-rings inside the bow for lifting the hull? They might be pressed into service as ladder attachment points.

 

[zodiac340m]

Re: Where to install a Ladder on a Zodiac SIB?

I would think an eye bolt with washers and a wing nut would make a good attachment for the rope from the ladder. As you have an air floor, don't put a strap around the floor as an attachment point, or the floor could be damaged.

D-rings can be glued to the tubes and make a pretty secure attachment point. I am like you in that several d-rings would come in handy for securing equipment in the boat.

Does the boat have d-rings inside the bow for lifting the hull? They might be pressed into service as ladder attachment points.

I do not have an air floor on this zodiac. I have a wooden floor. I have only three attachments two d rings on the front for towingt and one bow handle for pulling or carrying the boat from the front. I am a visual person so I cant understand the instructions as I need to see something on a pic to be able to comprehend it. Is it possible to show me a pic or diagram of it please? I wanted to install four d rings actually and two more pvc carrying handles on the outer front mid section. Honda has nice handles which are 10.00 compared to zodiac at 50.00 euros. I spoke to a dealer who said lots of people are installing the honda handles as they are as good as the zodiac. the drings for zodiac cost 40.00 and the drings for honda cost 10.00. the price difference is one is made in china next in France. So I intend to install two more handles on each side up front. Two d rings at the above bow parallen to the two that are on the bottom of hte boat for towing and then two at the back. I have nothing to secure an anchor or life life ring to when at sea. Its annoying. I nearly lost my anchor cuz I had nothing to secure it to and it nearly slipped thru my fingers when the sea was too deep.

 

[fbpooler]

Re: Where to install a Ladder on a Zodiac SIB?

My mistake on the floor material, as I had it in my mind that it was an airfloor. Not being familiar with the actual floor design you have, I would leave it up to others familiar with that particular floor design to comment on using it as a mouinting base.

The ladder you referenced has a snap on the end of the rope which is probably designed to attach to a d-ring. Installing one to use with the ladder would probably be the best solution.

As far as tieing off an anchor goes, here is what we do. The bow line attached to the front lift handle is cut just long enough to prevent it being caught in the propeller. We attach the anchor line to a loop in the bow line. We also use the bow line as a support for the front passenger to steady themself when running at speed, so it has multiple uses.

 

[zodiac340m]

Re: Where to install a Ladder on a Zodiac SIB?

My mistake on the floor material, as I had it in my mind that it was an airfloor. Not being familiar with the actual floor design you have, I would leave it up to others familiar with that particular floor design to comment on using it as a mouinting base.

The ladder you referenced has a snap on the end of the rope which is probably designed to attach to a d-ring. Installing one to use with the ladder would probably be the best solution.

As far as tieing off an anchor goes, here is what we do. The bow line attached to the front lift handle is cut just long enough to prevent it being caught in the propeller. We attach the anchor line to a loop in the bow line. We also use the bow line as a support for the front passenger to steady themself when running at speed, so it has multiple uses.

I do put a bow line to tie off the boat when we dock someplace. But I didnt think of using it as an extra safety method for the front passenger. But with a 5HP I guess i dont need to lol. But I certainly will do this when I get a more powerful engine.

I will find someway to install that ladder, worst thing that can happen is it rip off somethign lol as long as its not the transom. I wonder if something gets ripped off if it leaves a big hole and air comes out

 

[Sea Rider]

Re: Where to install a Ladder on a Zodiac SIB?

Zodie,

Glue 2 D'rings on middle tube facing each other, loop a rope through first d'ring and tie to the second one, is it possible a pic holding ladder resting on tube ? You can tie a rope/anchor at bow's super d'ring, the one to carry, must have a small ring at lower handle to secure rope & anchor. Used to tie same for years on my first 310 Zodiac. Ideal is to have 4 handles, 2 rear, 2 up front, don't need more, glue extra small d'rings inside if need to tie things.

Happy Boating

 

[zodiac340m]

Re: Where to install a Ladder on a Zodiac SIB?

Zodie,

Glue 2 D'rings on middle tube facing each other, loop a rope through first d'ring and tie to the second one, is it possible a pic holding ladder resting on tube ? You can tie a rope/anchor at bow's super d'ring, the one to carry, must have a small ring at lower handle to secure rope & anchor. Used to tie same for years on my first 310 Zodiac. Ideal is to have 4 handles, 2 rear, 2 up front, don't need more, glue extra small d'rings inside if need to tie things.

Happy Boating

Is it difficult to glue? I got the zodiac two in one glue but afraid to use it. Hubby has no time so it has to be me and I am nervous I will spoil the boat or the area. I haev to glue two bimini suction rubber cups on the boat but instructions said to make area degraded, what do they mean?

I will get two new handles, have chosen the Honda as they are 10 euros compared to the Zodiac at 50. Should I put another mfg's handles on this boat or its not a biggy? They seem pretty sturdy. And will putting another mfg's products on this boat be compatible or not?

I will set up what I want the ladder to do on sat. Will take pic of course. As for now, time is not enough to glue anything, so I will be using a tie system and tell me if you think it will be feasible. Boat is of course in my dining room lol.

 

[Sea Rider]

Re: Where to install a Ladder on a Zodiac SIB?

Zodie,

Degrading means sanding a bit tube's fabric where suction cups will be glued. The glue that comes with boat is generally a 1 part emergency glue, if it were a 2 part long lasting glue, long time ago glue tube would be dried out. Can place any good quality brand handles compatible with pvc fabric.

To glue extra accesories on tubes in a pro way, will need mek to clean fabric, 2 part glue, proper tools to flaten parts on top fabric to take air bubbles out, correct room temperature and of course skilled aptitudes if wanting glued part to last. My recommendation would be to contact a boat shop to do it, tell them where you want all your accessories to be professional glued. Probably an ouuuch price, who said boating was cheap...

Happy Boating

 

[galatian]

Re: Where to install a Ladder on a Zodiac SIB?

Hi, you say that you want to install 2 more handles, I suggest to have them installed on the inside of the tubes after the transom like in this picture http://www.boatstogo.com/inflatable_boat_sd330.asp this way will be easier for 2 people to move the boat around.
Now a stupid question regarding the cups for the Bimini top, if they are suction cups why do you have to glue them? If you really have to glue them at least them have this done by a shop, there is allot of stress in them when the Bimini is up and is windy.
Good luck with your project

 

[Sea Rider]

Re: Where to install a Ladder on a Zodiac SIB?

Gluing handles on the inside of the tube's end cones is for carrying sib without attached engine on transom by 2 people, 340 has a tight space, so probably engine will impede proper maneuverability while using both handles. You have already 2 handles at back, will need 2 more up front.

Happy Boating

 

[minuteman62-64]

Re: Where to install a Ladder on a Zodiac SIB?

I hope I'm not asking a stupid question here, but, do you really need a ladder? Seems like just one more thing to clutter up what are usually tight quarters. I had a 15'-6" Zodiac back in the 1980's that I used for SCUBA diving off the coast here (San Diego). We used to ditch tanks and weight belt and either hand them to someone on board or fasten to a line off the transom and then just swing a leg over the side tube and roll in. It was pretty easy (although I was in my 30's then).