Where YOU got started with wrenching ?

chiefalen

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I just posted a reply, another forum here, asking a different question of me.

So i thought i would start a thread on where people first started to learn about mechanics and who their mentor was.

I grew up in Brooklyn NY, and worked when i was 10 years old, upstate NY, in chicken farms, resorts for rich people, and did anything i could do for a dime.

Anyway i scrapped together enough money for my first car, and bought a junker, i believe a 1971 nova 2 door. Got it cheap that was towed in to a junk yard across the street from my friends father machine shop on Remsen ave, Brooklyn NY.

I was there that day with my buddy, working after school for pennies and learning anything that the mechanics, would deem to teach me. My friend was the owners son, so he was sorta my boss.

Anyway i watched every car that got pulled into the yard hoping to spend the money that was burning a hole in my pocket, and i didn't know that the owner already spoke to the junk yard owner about keeping a eye open for a fixer upper for me, and my friend who wanted his first car.

So as fate would have it, in comes a Nova. Body was perfect motor was shot.
Rubber was new, guy just didn't check the oil, or the oil pump went i don't really remember why the motor started to smoke and knock.

So as i usually did i ran across the street when i see it, and asked the owner of the yard, is this the one is this the one.

And he said how i f-----g know it's still hooked to the truck, ill call you after i get it up and look at it.

His son was a friend of ours also, but had a Camero that we did, the lucky dog but thats a different story, for a different post.

So it was getting to be dinner time i didn't do my homework yet, My mother calls the shop and gives the owner what for, cause i ain't home yet, and i'm covered in grease, and she knows it.

Now you have to know this guy was a bear of a man, and was feared by everyone, had a bunch of people who worked for him, and did business with some real tough people. People with broken noses, and califlowered ears.

But when it came to my mother or his wife he was a puppy dog, and i never did understand it, till i married my wife, how the sound of a shrill voice over the phone, can turn a heart of stone into much.

So he kicked me in the pants and said go home your mother called. And i had to leave the car of my dreams in the pound across the street, not knowing the fate it was in for.

All i could think of was that jalopy. Don't remember anything else for that night or eating or the homework.

I know my dad got a call from my friends dad, and a call from my uncle, who owned Ace glass, and i worked there also learning all i could soak up, about auto glass, power windows, speedo cables, and locks, he did a lot of auto locks, ignition locks, was always a brisk business with broken glass and locks. Also did all the warranty work for the dealers in Brooklyn.

So off to school the next day don't remember that day except, when the bell rang and i was out the door with my buddy like a shot, off to his dads place.

I come running in the door and straight into his dads arms, who scooped me up and carried me into the back, on his shoulder and up on the lift was the Nova.

And the motor was on a crate already half apart. He says to me you think i'm gonna rebuild that POS forgetaboutit. I'm gonna junk that whole f-----g car if you don't drive it outta here in a week. And you and your friend there pointing to his son, are gonna rebuild it cause i ain't got not time to waste on no POS. Your got my lift tied up and the tranny got to come off and you roll it it the back yard till your ready to put the tranny back, get to work.

He leaves to go somewhere and my jaw is on the ground, and i didn't know where to start. There was this old grizzly guy that worked there, and he ambled over pulling a tranny jack, and says off the top of his head the size sockets we got to bring over. So we go looking for them and pull over a work cart and milk crates and small ladders so we can reach it.

About a hour latter we are dropping our family jewels on the floor cause it was freekin heavy, and almost drop it on the floor but manage to get it down.

We get it on a dolly and out the front door, when the boss comes back, with a toothpick in his face, and says that f-in car is still on my lift? You guys are costing me money holding up my lift.

But he saw us huffing and puffing pulling it out the door, when he was in the car at the light to make the left into his place.

So he gets the tranny rebuilder to send a guy over for the tranny while we huff and puff pushing the car out the back door.

We rebuilt the motor with him yelling and screaming all the time at us, and telling us how worthless we are, and we are so stupid that he shouldn't let us clean the toilets. He didn't need no stikin manual, knew everything in his head, every size, every torque value, everything in his head.

But he had us look up everything showed us how to cross reference, from one book to another.

Yelled at us if we didn't clean and wipe all the tools shiny new and put them back in the exact spot they came from when we done for the day.

Who was your mentor guy's. Any story you want to tell.
 

Rogue427

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Re: Where YOU got started with wrenching ?

I started working on cars when I was 15. Very little $$ and a lot of old cars in the yard. My Dad likes fixing up old cars. His current project is a 55 Ford panel truck with a 390. Mine Is a 69 F250 with a built 428PI. Now I'am showing my stepson how to work on the old truck and taking the time to explane how things work and why you do things a certain way. He's 13 and has no problem grabbing a manual. He likes it when I start the old truck up. Open headers sound cool.:cool::D
 

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around 10 y/o i started messing with an old go cart, would not start, their was an old washing machine motor in the garage, with a pulley on it. i had wrap the rope on that go cart, so many times and it would not start, (now knowing it probably needed a carb cleaning). i found a fan belt, looped it on the flywheel thing you wrapped the rope around, then on the washing machine motor. rigged a pig tail plug to the motor. had a friend plug in the motor while i held it. after a couple of trys, i got the thing started, did some adjustments. we had a go cart!!! Funny thing, it would never start with out the ELECTRIC STARTER.

since then, everything has interested me. i have to work with my hands.
 

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My Dad used to go to work in one car and come back in another but I was always tinkering with what ever he brought when I got older I got my first car a "68" vw also had a "65" dunebuggy Dad ended up with a "69"vw bought and rebuilt an xtra engine for the 68 and 69 so we (me) would always have an xtra a buddy and myself could take the engine out in 26 minutes,the carport was always a mess people over talking cars to all hours of the night look back on that I guess the folks figured at least we know where he is.Now these days no turning wrenches just like rebuilding boats.
 

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My Dad has to be my mentor. In the late 50's he opened his "Fixit" shop. It was mostly vehicles of all sorts, and his fabrication kept him just as busy.

Mom and Dad would tell friends about when I was out in my Dads old tin garage when I was 4. I had taken the guard off his trouble light using a screwdriver. I then unscrewed the light bulb. After that I proceeded to use a 3/8 combination wrench sticking it down into the socket. They found me on the dirt floor unconscious. That is when I learned about mechanics and electric to boot! :D

Nowdays, my dad would have been arrested for not supervising me. Sure glad I grew up when I did. :D
 

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Chief.... 1932 E 32d St between Filmore & S...... we were directley accross from the Marine Park tennis courts. Same house where my Mom grew up and actuall right down the road from the bay.

Started with bicycles for the first wrench turning time. We moved out to Hauppauge and I promoted to Briggs & Stratton ...... mini bikes and go karts ;)

Moved to Franklin Square and started on cars at 13. Helped my Dad pull the VW motor and rebuild it all in about 2 days. We had a house in Roxbury too ;) where I was a terror with an outboard. Started with the old Ted Williams 7.5 and actually had the fastest Scott 16 around. Repaired MANY 33 and 40 rudes and johnsons. We basically would terrorize the bay with small outboards mounted on the smallest boats we could.

I went to Sewanhaka Vo Tech and we had an Auto mechanics shop.... I took the Building Trades and all my friends were mechanics..... raced every weekend at National Speedway in the Moriches.... ah the early dumb times when we would drive the race car to the track :rolleyes: then we would blow something up :redface: we learned.
 

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Re: Where YOU got started with wrenching ?

I started working on mechanical stuff as a child (starting at about age 8) with my father. At first I was just the gopher, and every job ended with him saying, "Gather up them tools".
It was a very strange, sureal, and rewarding experience, when at age 23, we did a project together, where I was the technician, and I got to say to my dad, "Gather up them tools". He did... gladly, and proudly.
I sure wish I lived in FL and was able to help him do projects all the time!
 

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Re: Where YOU got started with wrenching ?

Chiefalen: Great post and fun read. I was sweating right there with ya.

I was never taught much about mechanics as a youngster. Once I did get a car, one of my uncles taught me how to change plugs and set points with a match book cover. But I was never taught nor was I exposed to the "big" picture of tearing a motor apart,etc.

Over the years, I have watched and learned as a neighbor,friend, or relative repaired something and tried to absorb as much knowledge as I could without being a pita to them.
But if some new problem comes up, I get stuck pretty fast if I've never been exposed to that problem before. So I ask the question, is it fuel or spark and start from there.
 

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My grandfather got me started. He lived on a saltwater pond in coastal R.I. and always had boats, lawnmowers, etc. With all of that stuff, it seemed something always needed to be fixed.

I was also into motorcycles as a teenager and often worked on either my own or someone else's. In fact, the first "motorcycle" that I ever owned (even though it was for about 2 days), was a moped. It belonged to a friend of mine, who "gave" it to me because it didn't run. I figured out very quickly that the carb was gummed up, so I cleand it out and had it running in a couple of hours. I had a good time with it for awhile, until my friend's mom found out about the whole thing. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

Next was becoming an aircraft mechanic at the age of 18. In the USCG, enlisted aviators are also mechanics, avionics techs, etc. I flew missions about half the time, and worked on airplanes and helicopters the rest of the time. The Chief that I worked for was also good about letting us work on our cars and bikes in the shop, after hours.

From there, it has always been natural for me to tear into something that can easily be fixed at home, rather than to send it to a shop. I guess once the basics are learned, most of us just keep fixing our own stuff most of the time.
 

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My grandfather was a truck driver and so was my father.. when my grandfather passed away he had a shed full of old 'put-put' engines, you will have to be really, really, really old to remember those.

They were small Briggs and Stratton engines that ran the reefers on the trailers.
I started taking them apart when I was about 6 years old, I even managed to get a couple of them running.

One weekend my father came home with an old car that was converted to a dune buggy, it had tires that looked to be airplane tires on it. I was amazed with this old thing, I was out in the yard looking under the hood one day when my father came out and asked what I was doing. He was leaving to go on the road in his truck, and said to me, "it doesn't run take it apart and fix it" I was 7 years old.

In a few days when he returned he went out to look and see if he could get this old buggy running... but.. while he was on the road I had removed EVERYTHING that had a bolt that I could reach, it was almost a bare block, I was hooked from then on, if it had an engine I was interested in how it worked.

I started working changing oil, plugs and simple stuff when I was 12 years old at a local gas/service station.

It was always fun until it became 'work'; it's one of few jobs that you have to purchase the tools to do your job and no one is ever happy to see you.
 

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two things got me stared. My dad has always been a "handyman" on the side on top a full time gig as Building maintnence. He was always fixing something at someones house and I many times tagged along. My first three duties as a young grasshopper were pulling nails out of salvaged wood, hauling debris to the dumpster/ back of the truck and replacing flouresent bulbs. I dont think he started paying me any money till I was about 13-14 years old. :rolleyes: My Uncle spent a few years rebuilding a 70 Chevelle SS so that got me interested in cars. A bright Orange Muscle car with a Hot 396 will do that to a kid. :cool:
 

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I strated making models, planes, ships, erector sets, since I was maybe 6 or 7, then bicycles, would have 2 or 3 old ones and make one good one, gas powered Cox planes and cars, then on neighbors cars and then I bought my first truck, a 64 Chevy 283 V8 and a blown Powerglide tranny, limped it to highschool auto shop, was on one of the racks for probably a month??? Put new tranny in, did brakes, never got around to rebuilding engine, sold it. Took auto in college, more cars, then really got into wrenching, motors in my 20's, built and extremely quick 68 Mustang Fastback - motor was designed on some cool software, read Hot Rod magazine forever and finally got my 1st boat about 7 yrs ago, sold it 3 yrs ago, and in the last 5 yrs have bought, fixed up and resold a few cars and trucks, maybe one a year or so....
 

chiefalen

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Bob i was on e 92nd st on conklin ave, it was between flatlands ave and glenwood ave.

You were in gravesend or marine park?

I know it well used to do the horizontal bing bang with a girl down your way, was that your sister?

Just kidding. What a small world no kidding.
 

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i have been working on stuff since i could hold a wrench..........notice i didnt say fixing things.

i learned a lot the hard way-----throwing parts at it.........then i started learning how to troubleshoot.

by the time i was 16 i had already built a motor for my truck.........it lasted 2 weeks---------i didnt know about turning the crank.

i would say my mentor would have to be my dad.......ive always been a do it youself kind of guy---i like to figure things out for myself......although WHEN i did ask for help he would come outside and just do it-----------you had to really pay attention or you would miss the whole thing.

now that im a lil older (35 in june) i dont mind asking for help....................i got over that i know everything.

besides boat parts are expensive.............i had an easier time convincing the wife i "needed" a demon carb for my old truck than i did convincing her i needed another boat-------of course i just got the new to me boat a few weeks ago and the carb incident was 7-8 years ago..........that was some fancy talking...no i straight up lied.........i think she probably knew-----since i had just bought a edlebrock 750 6 months prior.
 

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Marine Park..... Hmmmm I am the oldest and a year younger than you LOL

Yes I miss the impromtu repairs done on the water in Jamaica Bay.... I miss the crabbing but that was a LONG time ago. ;)
 

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In my case, growed up on a farm, we had to fix it ourselves, started helping my father when I was big enough to hold a wrench, went on to make my living as a mechanic and still do most of my own repairs today even though I do not make my living as a mechanic anymore. I am still in the business, work for a commercial truck dealer handling warranty, computers and networking.
 

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Jamaica bay was where my brother and i launched a inflatable and the motor conked out and we got stuck for hours.

We got towed in by to old guys.

I'll take you into Raritain bay and we will go into the mouth of the Shrewsbury
river near the navy base and catch fish, then we will go over to Sandy hook the rip and catch some more.

We will drift past the nude beach's just cause they got fish there ( wink ) And thats where i got my biggest fluke to date, a real floor mat. Depends on the time of the year the strippers bite there also, last fish in the boat last year was a 35 incher.
 

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Like TD, I have to work with my hands too. Aside from helping my older brother - handing him tools mostly, and watching, my first real job was in a gas station when I was 15. Started with oil changes and went from there. I worked in shops for the next dozen or so years before seeking out air conditioning!
 

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Worked with my Dad since I can remember. We never had a car in the shop (except for body work) until he was 70. Then he decided enough was enough and lets others do the work. I got good at fixing stuff I broke before Dad got home.....
 

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I took every toy I got apart within a few days to see how it worked. When my brother graduated from the go-cart to a car, I got the go-cart. I hit everything in the yard with that thing. Pop showed me how to use the arc welder after the third time I tore the spindles off, I think I was about 10-12.

Pop's only instructions on the welder were: Don't weld in the rain.

Wise words.
 
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