Which outboard 4-stroke?Suzuki70 or Yamaha100?

rk2fish

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I'm thinking of repowering with a used four stroke motor from this website for my 1984 17' Arima Sea chaser cuddy cabin(dry weight about 1300lbs). It has a 1995 88spl Johnson right now and only goes about 35mph. Not too concerned about speed. Will a 2003 Suzuki 70hp be enough or should I think about a 90hp or even a 2000 Yamaha 100 four stroke. Thanks, Rodney.
 

bossee

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Re: Which outboard 4-stroke?Suzuki70 or Yamaha100?

Hi,<br />If Your boat have these specifications a 70 hp 4-stroke like Suzuki DF70 will be enough in most cases, for sure.<br /> http://www.arimaboats.com/boat7.htm <br />Length 16' 11" (5.16 m)<br />Beam 8' (2.44 m) <br />Height 5' 7" (1.70 m) <br />Weight 1250 lbs (567 kg) <br />Max Power 120 hp <br />Safe Load Cap (6) 1600 lbs (726 kg) <br />Fuel 27 gal (102 L)<br /><br />A 100 hp Yamaha 4-stroke (F100) will be fine also but not needed really considering the rather small boat that You have. Nice to have extra hp but not a "must" in Your case (but it depends also how heavy loaded the boat usually are).<br />The Yamaha F100 4-stroke is slightly more heavy than Suzuki DF70 (370 lb for F100, 335 lb for DF70) <br />The Suzuki DF70 has the advantage of EFI (Electronic Fuel Injection), the Yamaha F100 has carburators.<br /><br />If the boat will carry usually "light" load (3-4 people and some cargo) a 70 hp 4-stroke will be just fine but will have to work a little harder than a 100 hp 4-stroke. If You usually are more people in the boat and often heavy loaded I would go for the Yamaha F100 4-stroke.<br />As for 90 hp 4-strokes, the Suzuki DF 90 is more heavy (416 lb) and I would think more than twice before hanging that weight in such small boat.<br />The (new) Yamaha F90 4-stroke is the same weight as the F100 4-stroke and has also carburators and it could be an alternative also. Even a Yamaha F75(newer)4-stroke or F80(older) 4-stroke will be fine both regarding force and weight if the boat is not so heavy loaded. <br />Personally I would probably lean toward the Yamaha F100 just because You have some hp to spare then and You can cruise at lower RPM (and get low sound level than also) and still good fuel consumption but maintain comfortable speed.
 
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Re: Which outboard 4-stroke?Suzuki70 or Yamaha100?

1300 pounds is not a light boat.<br /><br />The Suzuki 70 is a great engine, but it will struggle.<br /><br />The 88 you have on there now is about as torquey of an engine there is. And it's a 2 stroke so it even has better low end grunt.<br /><br />I think the 100 is much better choice.
 

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Re: Which outboard 4-stroke?Suzuki70 or Yamaha100?

A 100 is 83% of max rated 120 hp and will allow you to enjoy the performance your boat was designed for. The 70 is 58% - will end struggling full time.<br /><br />EFI really is interesting but does not replace power.<br /><br />I'd suggest the 100 hp Yammie.
 

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Re: Which outboard 4-stroke?Suzuki70 or Yamaha100?

Howdy.<br /><br />I have a Suzi DF70 on my 950# Boston Whaler Montauk 17. I get high 30s with 3 aboard loaded for fishing.<br /><br />I think you would want more power on a 1300# boat unless you load it pretty lightly. 350# is a lot of weight on a 16/17' boat. If you load lightly, the DF70 is my choice.<br /><br />The problem with the Yamaha F100 is carburetors. I would much prefer an EFI 4 stroke. <br /><br />The EFI Suzuki DF115 and Yamaha F115 weigh about 415lb and would be excellent choices if your boat can handle the weight.<br /><br />Good luck. :)
 

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Re: Which outboard 4-stroke?Suzuki70 or Yamaha100?

I'm familiar with your Arima Sea Chaser...I used to have one. It's a boat that can handle lots of power and weight. Very seaworthy.<br /><br />The Suzuk 70 just isn't going to be enough to enjoy. Even though the F100 has carbs, it was an excellent outboard. Ideally, the EFI F115 would be my choice for that boat.
 

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Re: Which outboard 4-stroke?Suzuki70 or Yamaha100?

I just bought a DF 70 from this web site and love it it is on a 16 foot but it sounds like it may be a little under power for your boat<br />but the suzuki 70 is an awsome motor and the best motor i have ever bought it did replace a Johnson 115 with very little or no noticeable power loss
 
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