Why We Will Never Truly Win The War on Terror

demsvmejm

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I got this off of another website some time ago. I don't know if it is 100% accurate, but it certainly follows what has come out in the media regarding the Islamic religion. Any question why we sould "racially profile?" I don't know of any gray haired 70 year old Black/Caucasian/Hispanic women who have been linked to terrorist cells. The 9/11 hijackers weren't 16 year old kids traveling home to see mom for Christmas. I think you all get the point.

Thought this might interest you: This is from a retired Christian preacher regarding Rick Mathes, a well known leader in prison ministry. This is a must read -- it's short but very informative!

Basics of Islam

The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States, especially in the minority races!

Allah or Jesus? by Rick Mathes

Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing
the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their beliefs.

I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.

When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?"

There was no disagreement with my statements and without hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!"

I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can go to Heaven. Is that correct?"

The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He sheepishly replied, "Yes."

I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go to Heaven!"

The Imam was speechless.

I continued, "I also have a problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah who tells you to kill me in order to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be with me?"

You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame. Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the "Diversification" training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the
Muslim's beliefs.

I think everyone in the US should be required to read this, but with the liberal justice system, liberal media, and the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized.

Please pass this on to all your e-mail contacts. This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a known leader in prison ministry.
 

Haut Medoc

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Re: Why We Will Never Truly Win The War on Terror

Pretty sure this was debunked as carp on snopes .......:$
Link anyone?.......JK
 

jtexas

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This hate speech has already been exposed as a fraud.
 

stevieray

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If I may be so bold as to borrow a "crunchicon".......


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CalicoKid

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Somebody step in poo? ? ?
 

jtexas

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demsvmejm said:
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I don't know of any gray haired 70 year old Black/Caucasian/Hispanic women who have been linked to terrorist cells. The 9/11 hijackers weren't 16 year old kids traveling home to see mom for Christmas. I think you all get the point.

Your opening paragraph were probably cut & pasted with the rest, but here's something you might have not thought of, from my own experience (not some random internet blogger), which explains the preponderance of elderly being searched at airport security checkpoints.

I travelled recently with my 83-year-old gray-haired father. He has an implanted medical device (a pacemaker) which the manufacturer says might be re-set or turned off by the "wands" at security checkpoints. So he requests a hand search. The alternative is to just wave him on through.

Do you think this would not be a weakness? Do you really think that the most likely terrorists are going to be identifiable by sight?

Submitting to a search is really not that big a deal. He considers it the least he can do for his country.
 

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Re: Why We Will Never Truly Win The War on Terror

One of them is lying. According to SBN's snopes link artcle, Mathes is lying, or the inmate is llying. It is up to us to decide who is lying. I'll pick the inmate.
Just a coin toss there .. sigh
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rmmpe

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Re: Why We Will Never Truly Win The War on Terror

Profiling works and should be used.
Regardless of what others think, there is foundation to it.
If a certain "type" of people didn't do those things, there would be nothing to profile.
 

12Footer

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'zacly.. After all, they got in prison SOMEHOW.
 

Haut Medoc

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My guess would be crooked prosecuters with hidden agendas....
Just a guess, mind you! :)
 

jtexas

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I'm just saying, profile all you want, but a successful terrorist is unlikely to fit the profile.
 

demsvmejm

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Re: Why We Will Never Truly Win The War on Terror

i am somewhat embarrassed that I did not check this for accuracy or "urban legend" status before posting. To that end I am a hate-monger. However the replies seem to support my underlying sentiment.

Jtexas, I agree a simple search and questioning is acceptable. When I step on a plane (never have, yet) I am placing my safety and my life in the hands of everyone else on that plane. Any nutjob can end my life, with no opportunity for me to defend myself. So yes, I believe searching is appropriate, on a reasonable level. Taking off my shoes, emptying my pockets and passing through a metal detector is certainly reasonable, an invasive luggage search of random passengers is border-line reasonable too, but not if it will prevent them from boarding the plane on time, assuming nothing nefarious is discovered.

I apologize and thank you all for your kind replies.
 
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We'll never win because:

1. We don't care.

2. We seem to tolerate: having to remove our shoes, no more tnan 3 ounces of any liquid.

3. No nail clippers, or anything metal, for that matter.

4. Appointing the absolute "idiots" as "checkers" in the airports. The "untouchable/unemployable are checking you through the airport. I know, I do 40 legs (minimum)/ year.

5. PC. We can't alienate anyone, even though they are scheming against us.

6. We rot, from within. We've allowed multi-millions to enter the country-unrestrained/unchecked/unhampered. Now, they have civil rights? We have no guts, see # 5.

We die, living the PC (pipe) dream.

BTW, double on the #1 & 6..
 

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DWJ said:
We'll never win because:

1. We don't care.

2. We seem to tolerate: having to remove our shoes, no more tnan 3 ounces of any liquid.

3. No nail clippers, or anything metal, for that matter.

4. Appointing the absolute "idiots" as "checkers" in the airports. The "untouchable/unemployable are checking you through the airport. I know, I do 40 legs (minimum)/ year.

5. PC. We can't alienate anyone, even though they are scheming against us.

6. We rot, from within. We've allowed multi-millions to enter the country-unrestrained/unchecked/unhampered. Now, they have civil rights? We have no guts, see # 5.

We die, living the PC (pipe) dream.

BTW, double on the #1 & 6..

Judging from the past 20 year's i would tend to agree with you, however there is a new generation coming on the sceen.

There 20-30 and there full of life, they have grown up with there parent's PC bs and can see thourgh it with stunning clarity, There is much to be said for a old statement "Thourgh The Eye's Of A Child" perhap's it will innocence that will save the day..............A bit ironic wouldnt you say.......................
 

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dems, remember it's commercial air service - don't want to be searched, take the train. And get to the airport early.

dwj,
#1, speak for yourself
#2, find it intolerable? take the train
#3, just flat out wrong
#4, just flat out wrong

Why we won't win the war on terrorism is that for every terrorist you neutralize, two more are created.

Why we will win the war on terrorism is that we are the 800 pound gorilla - we can declare victory whenever we want to.
 
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