WOT Issue (Maybe?)

mvn

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Background: 2019 Rinker MTX20 with a Volvo V6-280-M/SX drive package. I purchased it at the beginning of summer from a dealer that had it stored for over 2 ½ years with a ½ tank of fuel in it. It had 5 hours on it when I got it.

The Story: First weekend with it, all seemed good. Acceleration was incredible, even with 6 people on board. I had to get used to the very sensitive throttle. I had to increase the throttle friction setting a bit which helped. The next weekend is when the trouble started. I did a single WOT throttle run to see max speed. The tach appeared to almost hit 7,000 rpm. I backed off immediately. No rev limiter, no alarms…..strange. A few hours later, I started to get a recurring alarm as previously posted. Also, Engine Protection kicked in once limiting the throttle. Getting a Rinda scan tool, the code was SPM 4237 FMI 0 which translates to long term fuel trim high, Bank 1 indicating a lean operating condition. Subsequent investigation found a very loose fuel filter so I suspected fuel aeration as the low pressure pump was also gurgling. Changing out the fuel filter and tightening it up, I did not get the code again. I also reset the fuel trim table so the ECM could relearn. WOT indicated 5800 rpm on the boat’s tach but the speed seemed low (43 mph on GPS). Prop was a stock 14x19 4-blade aluminum. I didn’t think too much of it but it stayed in the back of my mind.

I got a 14x20 4-blade stainless to try this past weekend. Handling improved dramatically but the top speed did not improve. WOT indicated 5800 rpm on the boat’s tach. Loading up with 6 teens/adults, we headed out for a day on the water. All seemed to be OK but I found the boat to be sluggish getting on plane while towing. This was not the case on that first weekend. It was able to pop up a skier in no time. Later that day, I went out with my scan tool and did a few WOT runs. Low and behold, the Rinda scan tool showed ~4900 rpm while the boat’s tach showed 5800 rpm. The scan tool also showed max engine load peaking out at 86% to 88%. I did not get a chance to verify the switch setting on the tach…next weekend. I did verify full stop to stop operation of the throttle position sensor so cables are OK. Oil pressure, coolant temps and manifold temps are all good according to the ECM and gauges.

So my question is this…..Assuming the tach is wrong (which would explain the 7,000 WOT reading last month) and its really 4900 rpm, what do I do? I did read the thread on this forum regarding low WOT. I suspect fuel issues. I have been filling up with ethanol-free premium gas to flush the system but could there be a partial blockage somewhere? Any ideas where? I was thinking of setting up a small tank and feeding the low pressure pump to see if it’s a tank issue or an engine issue. I’ll also change the filter again and look at the contents.
 

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Boat gauges are almost always not accurate. Changed prop from 19P to 20P and now your getting 4900 rpm. Even though a stainless prop blades are thinner, going back to 19P will increase the rpm some. The change will not get it back to 5800.

Note: for future reference, if any motor is reaching max WOT rpm, going to a higher pitch will only hurt overall performance.

Cable is moving TPS fully, but is the ECM seeing the same. Connect scanner and go to TPS reading with key on, motor off. Move the throttle to see if it goes close to 100%

Check your fuel pressure running to see if it stays thru the rpm band to WOT

Watch the MAP (around 40 idle to 95 WOT) and Temp on scanner to see if they to show correct inputs

If motor checks out, might run thru the misfire test. Even though a misfire on a plug I would think there would be a code
 

mvn

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Thanks for the reply. Just for clarification, stock prop shows the same....boat tach reading 5800 rpm, Rinda showing 4900. I understand prop effects on WOT. I may have confused the issue in my explanation.

I will check actual TPS readings.

I have access to a fuel pressure gauge. I believe fuel rail pressure should be 50-60 psi.

I will rig up a portable fuel tank with fresh premium fuel and Sea Foam.

I will pull the main tank's fuel pickup and inspect.

Thanks
 

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Unless VP recommends Premium fuel, all it will do is reduce the HP slightly. Unless your fuel is real old I don't see it being that right now.
 

mvn

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Understood. Premium is the only fuel available in our area than is ethanol-free. My plan was to switch over to regular anyway. As mentioned earlier, the fuel in the tank was pushing 3 years in age with summer/winter temperature changes (Ontario).
 

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ok, missed the 3 yr, and that maybe most the problem
 

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Premium is the only fuel available in our area than is ethanol-free. My plan was to switch over to regular anyway. As mentioned earlier, the fuel in the tank was pushing 3 years in age with summer/winter temperature changes (Ontario).
If you're trying to "clean out" the fuel system, E10 would have been a better choice.
 

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I ran 3 gallons of fresh gas with a good quality injector cleaner through the engine..... No change. With a Rinda scan tool, I ran an injector cutout test. Low and behold, cylinder 3 is the problem. The engine stumbled when cutting 1,2,4,5,6 but not 3. Disconnecting the spark plug on 3 also didn't make the engine run rough. So it's either spark or injector. Any advice?

Keep in mind this is a direct injection engine with 6 separate coil packs.

Thanks,
Mark
 

mvn

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Dealer has been awesome! They just called and confirmed #3 cylinder was dead. Not the injector though..... A bad plug! In all my years of playing with boats, sleds, atv's, cars, trucks, even small engines, I've never had 1 plug go south.

I'm happy it wasn't an injector after watching all of the YouTube videos of guys destroying fuel rails trying to get them out.

Water tested, 5800 rpm, 55 mph! That's better. Tach is junk though.
 

mvn

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Got the boat back in the water yesterday evening. Starts much easier and the idle is super smooth. Instantly pops up on plane with 2 adults and a full tank of fuel. 55 mph on gps. The new prop keeps the wot rpm at 5800.

Amazing what happens when you're firing on all cylinders! An absolute pleasure to drive now.

Mark
 
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