Wrong Prop??

knouse94

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I am new to boating and have looked high and low on the internet in an attempt to find a solution to the problem that I am having. I have a 15ft fiberglass flat bottom boat(estimated hull weight 1200-1500lbs). It has a 50hp motor with a 20" shaft. I have a 10 3/4"-12 pitch prop. The transom measures 22 1/2". The motor seems to run well but I may hit 15mph if I am lucky and the motor seems to be working very hard. Also, when I throttle the motor the bow of the boat raises up and stays up while I barely move along. I am not sure if I need a different prop, the shaft is too short , or if the motor is not powerful enough to push the boat. I would appreciate any advice I can get. Thank You
 

knouse94

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Re: Wrong Prop??

I have a 1971 Mercury 500 50hp. The motor seems to be running at a high rpm, it is not bogged down (I do not have a tach). My manual says the rpm range is from 5200-5500. It seemed to me like it was running over that range. Hopefully you can see the picture well enough. Thanks
 

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steelespike

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Re: Wrong Prop??

Your weight estimate seems really high.Typical 15 ft glass boat weighs about 800 to 900 lbs.dry weight.Its nearly impossible to tell where your at without a tach and a gps for speed.Your prop may be to big (too much pitch) need actual rpm and speed.
A tinytach is about $47 and easy to install.maybe beg or borrow a gps or have a fellow boater clock you.In the mean time confirm it is running on all cylinders,throttle opening all the way.At 15mph the boat probably isn't planing.Are the gastanks an battery(s)in the stern.Do you trim in for hole shot?
 

knouse94

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Re: Wrong Prop??

What is the easiest way to check for a spun hub? The gas tank and the battery are located in the stern. The motor runs good, I changed the plugs, rebuilt the fuel pump and the compression check was good. I am not sure what kind of boat the motor came off of so I am assuming that the prop is the problem. By judging off of the motor size, boat weight, and optimal operating range of 5200-5500rpm for this motor what prop would be recommended? Thnaks
 

steelespike

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Re: Wrong Prop??

Usually a spun hub is just plain spun and produces little or no push.
Put a water proof line across the hub and check the line after a run.
The antivent plate (just above the prop)should be about even with the bottom of the boat.
I feel the boat should plane with a 12 though it may be too much prop.
Put the tank forward and maybe a passenger in the bow to see if you can plane
Unfortunately without a tach can't tell about a prop.
 

'96 Charger

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Re: Wrong Prop??

Do you trim in for hole shot?

I'd like to know this as well. Everything looks fine in the pic as far as setup goes. Every single person I've talked to that doesn't know how to work power trim has had issues with either getting up on pad OR getting the nose up after hopping up.
 

Benn

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Re: Wrong Prop??

It seems to me like you might have a couple issues going on. The prop pitch seems pretty low for that size boat, which would explain the high RMP's, but it should come out of the hole OK unless it is way underpowered, you have too much weight in the stern, or the trim is way off.

You can tell if the trim is way off pretty simply if the boat is hard to steer or really pulls to one side or if it seems to lug to get up on plain and then the RMPs shoot up as the bow comes down and/or the bow bounces. A properly trimmed boat should be easy to steer and you should be able to relax on the steering without fear it is going to shoot off one way or the other and should have a bow ride nice and steady.

Assuming you've adjusted the trim as well as you can, the first thing I would do is take out as much weight from the stern that you can and/or move it as far forward as possible and take a few test runs. If this works, you can then see about changing the weight balance permanently. I have a 18' fiberglass center console with duel batteries that were in the stern along with the fuel tank and simply moving the batteries to the bow compartment and the fuel to the center of the boat helped substantially.

If that does not work or if it does but you can't relocate things permanently because of the layout of your boat, a relatively cheap thing to test could be to install a Stingray Hydrofoil, which sells at various stores for about 50-60 bucks. I had a 16' tracker with a 60 HP that had similar issues and the Stingray really worked wonders because I could not easily redistribute the weight. It is easy to install and if it doesn't work, it does not hurt to keep it on.

If neither of those things work to your satisfaction and/or does not addresses otthe high RPM issue, you will likely have to get another prop. With the proper tools (a $12 prop wrench, a pair of small pliers, and a 12" piece of 2X4) you can change out a prop in about 3 minutes and it should be pretty easy to find used props for your motor on ebay or similar. It may take a few tries to get it right, so you may want to go with a prop store or reputable marine shop since they will have more options to work with and you will only end up buying the one you need (but it will cost you a bit more). I would start with a 16 pitch prop, but you may also want to have a 19 or 14 pitch prop on hand to try too. Without a tach/GPS it will be hard to test the results too accurately. I would at least get/borrow a cheap hand held GPS so you can track your speed at WOT to see if there is any improvement between runs.

Good Luck!
 
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