wrong stator?

Rayandrewss

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I have a 1979 Evinrude, 35 hp, electric start. I was told by a mechanic that I needed a new stator. The old stator ( according to all the diagrams I look at ) is for a pull start motor...( sensor and charge coil on top ). The new stator is all one unit with 3 extra yellow wires on it. Can I use the new one, and if so, where do the 3 yellow wires go ? If I accomplish it, I will post a pic to go along with this post. Thanks in advance for anyones help. Raystator.jpg
 

F_R

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Re: wrong stator?

The one piece one with yellow wires is for the electric start motor. It contains alternator coils for charging the battery. The yellow wires go to the rectifier which converts AC to DC for battery charging The flywheel will also have extra magnets for the alternator.

So---what will happen if you put the alternator stator on a manual start??? Dang if I know, never tried it. In the first place it costs much more so why would anybody?
 

Rayandrewss

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Re: wrong stator?

After getting answers on this forum and others, I decided to install the new stator. Apparently my motor was a pull start and had a starter added. Everything went in fine, tried to start it but to no avail....it didnt. Will have to see what the problem is tomorrow as it was starting to rain on my parade. If I still have no spark to 1 cylinder my next guess is the power pack as I already put in new coils. Keep ya'll posted..........Ray
 

jasper60103

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Re: wrong stator?

After getting answers on this forum and others, I decided to install the new stator. Apparently my motor was a pull start and had a starter added. Everything went in fine, tried to start it but to no avail....it didnt. Will have to see what the problem is tomorrow as it was starting to rain on my parade. If I still have no spark to 1 cylinder my next guess is the power pack as I already put in new coils. Keep ya'll posted..........Ray

Hope the stator does the trick. Are you saying, you have spark on one cylinder, but not the other?
 

Rayandrewss

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Re: wrong stator?

Jasper, that was the original problem when i had a mechanic look at it and why I changed the stator. As of today, I still dont know if it worked. I tried running it Sunday but couldnt get it to start. I think the timing is off. Havnt been able to work on it due to lousy weather. I am hoping for a better day tomorrow. Hope you got to see the pic........
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: wrong stator?

Your orginal 1979 rope pull stator has a timing sensor, and also a charge coil that energizes the capacitor within the powerpack. If that charge coil allows the powerpack to fire one cylinder, it surely will fire the other cylinder UNLESS the powerpack is faulty, a wire is shorted, something of that nature.

The new 1977 electric start stator is okay to use (1977/79 elec start stator has same part number = interchangable). But this proves that your original stator was okay as the replacement stator did not correct the problem. Also, it is not advisable to use that electric start stator unless you install a rectifier and wire it so that it will charge your battery.

As it stands, to use that electric start stator without a rectifer etc, there is no place for the charging voltage to go... and this results in the voltage backing up within the stator which causes a stator overheat problem which in turn results in a early stator failure.

Unless you're going to rig it to charge your battery, install your old stator, then check the spark to see if you still have the original problem (firing on one cylinder only). Check the spark with the spark plugs removed.

Okay, if you still have spark on that same one cylinder only, temporarily reverse the wires that lead from the powerpack to the coils. Now, if the spark follows the wire, that is the non firing coil now fires.... and the coil that fired before now does not fire.... the problem is within the powerpack.
 

Rayandrewss

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Re: wrong stator?

Turns out the new stator works great. Motor is running, and very smooth, best its ever done. Joe, my plan is to get a rectifier and hook it up to charge the battery since I used the new stator.
 

jasper60103

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Re: wrong stator?

Turns out the new stator works great. Motor is running, and very smooth, best its ever done. Joe, my plan is to get a rectifier and hook it up to charge the battery since I used the new stator.

Awesome! Thanks for the update.
 

Duckboat23

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Re: wrong stator?

Hey I am looking for a stator I have a model 35953a It has ele start all I see is parts withe the rong pic and parts that dont look like what I need. do you have a pic of what you bought and/or a place where you found the right part. now for my other ? do they make one that has a higher out put for the battery I use my boat for hunting and run Lights that slowly run my batter down.
 

Rayandrewss

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Re: wrong stator?

Duckboat.....I posted a pic at the start of this thread....stay with the same output stator....it will save you some problems......I got mine on e-bay
 
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