yup I did it again Outdrive was not in forward

[atomb]

Well I I thought the outdrive was in forward but all i had done was push the lever forward in neutral . :redface: I knew about it and did it wrong shame on me. So what do i need to do guys I just put the whole darn leg back on. Obviously it has to come out. the shift cable is brand new. so what do i need to do pull off leg make sure this time shes in forward. and repeat process?

 

[Kainon]

Re: yup I did it again Outdrive was not in forward

needs to come back off, and you need to be careful with the gasket, and BOTH O-rings ( I use a little grease on both the small to hold it in place, and the inside of the larger one so the bearing area of the upper slides in easier without catching and ripping it (experience)

and when going back on, need the lever in forward ( you dont need full throttle ) just be sure its a little into the throttle portion.

you need to have the DRIVE in forward TO.. and the shift left on the top of the lower section of the drive STRAIGHT, which is forward,

you then have to have a little counter-rotating, (counter clockwise) rotation on the prop (careful not to cut yourself) this keeps the drive in forward....

then after you get the shaft in the hole ( quiet) turn the prop a little counter-clockwise until the shaft engages the splines on the coupler,

then either give a little moe shove, or a little kick of the foot.( at the top)

Should be in, put a nut on it to hold it in.

 

[atomb]

Re: yup I did it again Outdrive was not in forward

Kainon Thanks so much I wasnt exactly sure how to approach the situation this is the first time i have installed it. I cant pull it off today Im going to have a go at this probably tomorrow am I will def. Let you know how it goes. LIve and learn I guess althoiugh this was another dumb one. Thanks again Kainon .

 

[ziggy]

Re: yup I did it again Outdrive was not in forward

make sure the shift shaft in the upper and the shift shaft in the bell housing didn't get bent by forcing apart while not in fwd. if bent you'll need to replace either or. something had to give for it to come apart while not in fwd.

 

[atomb]

Re: yup I did it again Outdrive was not in forward

I hear ya ziggy But it seemed to look alright
- Neither of the two mating shafts were straight forward but they did go together . I did get the outdrive off by myself and it was a little fussy but -not like a yank and oh no kinda thing .. When i get if off again ill have a look to make sure all is well. Thanks for the heads up Ziggy hopefully I got lucky.

 

[stonyloam]

Re: yup I did it again Outdrive was not in forward

I hear ya ziggy But it seemed to look alright
- Neither of the two mating shafts were straight forward but they did go together . I did get the outdrive off by myself and it was a little fussy but -not like a yank and oh no kinda thing .. When i get if off again ill have a look to make sure all is well. Thanks for the heads up Ziggy hopefully I got lucky.

Did you try to shift it? If it shifts as it should, you don't need to do anything. Put the control all the way forward Turn prop ccw should lock, cw free, put in neutral, free both directions, reverse ccw free, cw lock. If it passes that test you should be OK. The reason you put in F to pull the drive is so the intermediate shift shaft will slide out of the upper shift shaft linkage, (both are facing directly fore and aft).

 

[atomb]

Re: yup I did it again Outdrive was not in forward

it seems to not lock in into forward and then when i spin it ccw it unlocks itself and i can here like a ticking as i rotate the prop either direction. It is definetly seems to disengage. once disengaged from fwd it rotates freely neutral and Reverse so -i guess iM pulling the drive thanks for the last ditch effort.
Last question When I put the Lower end back together witht the upper it all seemed to fit like a glove -- did i need to have it the shift shaft engaged in forward to mate the two halves. I just dont wan to to pull it off and find that I also didnt mate the two halves correctly. It all seamed up perfect so Im just paranoid. ugh hopefully i ddint screw that up too.

 

[rbh]

Re: yup I did it again Outdrive was not in forward

Well I I thought the outdrive was in forward but all i had done was push the lever forward in neutral . :redface: I knew about it and did it wrong shame on me. So what do i need to do guys I just put the whole darn leg back on. Obviously it has to come out. the shift cable is brand new. so what do i need to do pull off leg make sure this time shes in forward. and repeat process?

You to EH, UGH
Well mine comes of tomorrow.

 

[stonyloam]

Re: yup I did it again Outdrive was not in forward

Last question When I put the Lower end back together witht the upper it all seemed to fit like a glove -- did i need to have it the shift shaft engaged in forward to mate the two halves.

No, but it had to be in the same gear. I am thinking that your shift fork at the end of the shift cable may not be properly engaging the upper shift shaft. need to check that first. Shove the control handle all the forward into gear. Unbolt the outdrive and slide it back. Make sure that the shift fork is properly engaging the little wheel on the arm of the upper shift shaft, it has to be between the two arms of the fork. Make certain it is correct and bolt the drive back in place and see if the shift works. If not: keep reading.

This is what you need to do: Put the control all the way forward, pull the drive. Split the drive again. Note the short splined shaft in front. Carefully turn that all the way CLOCKWISE. The gearcase is now in forward. Slip on the prop and using a bungee hold COUNTERCLOCKWISE pressure on the prop. That will hold it in gear. Put the two halves together (don't forget to make sure the ss washer is in place) making sure that when the intermediate shift shaft slides onto the splined shaft it is pointing straight ahead. reinstall the outdrive making sure that the shift fork (on the end of the shift cable properly engages the upper shift arm (the little wheel). should be good to go.

 

[atomb]

Re: yup I did it again Outdrive was not in forward

ok im going to have a crack at this on saturday so -this is where ill end it for now i have alot of good information from you guys . I wish i was better with the manual but i feel the manual you need to read in between the lines every so often. I have too much real work to do tomorrow so itll have to wait for the weekend. Thanks big time for everyones support I could never have gotten this boat this far without it. Thanks

 

[atomb]

Re: yup I did it again Outdrive was not in forward

alright i just stared and pulled the drive -----
when the drive is off the stand I can turn the drive shaft clockwise so that the prop also turns clockwise is this correct ----I can seem to find reverse while on the stand ,should i be able to? In order to see reverse what must i do? do i have to slipt upper and lower again or am i good to go to next step?

I think i just found reverse but if i dont hold the shift shaft wile turning it it wil disengage am i doin this correct? I know you guys are all probably enjoying your 4th of july weekend so im not going to hold my breath.

I have the od on the stand and just want to make sure before i throw her back on that she is engaging correctly.

 

[Fishermark]

Re: yup I did it again Outdrive was not in forward

With the drive on a stand you turn the driveshaft clockwise. You then turn the shift shaft clockwise while turning the prop counterclockwise. The prop should lock in place. The shift shaft should point forward in the 12 o clock position. This is the full forward position.

For reverse, you still turn the driveshaft clockwise, but turn the shift shaft counterclockwise. The prop you turn clockwise. The prop shoud lock in place. This is full reverse. The shift shaft should be pointing at around the 9:30 position. (With neutral being between the two at the 11:00 position).

(EDIT - With it on the stand, you really don't need to turn the drive shaft at all. Simply turn the shift shaft and prop).

 

[atomb]

Re: yup I did it again Outdrive was not in forward

I ripped the gasket taking it off out to the marine shop be back ina n hour to continue.

 

[ziggy]

Re: yup I did it again Outdrive was not in forward

With it on the stand, you really don't need to turn the drive shaft at all. Simply turn the shift shaft and prop

that's the way i look at it too.
also, another way of saying what fm just said.
fwd=prop locks ccw and ratchets cw, shift shaft point straight forward
neu=prop free wheels with no sound or feel at all
rev.=prop locks cw and ratchets ccw.

this is a pic of the older mc-1 in neu. yours may look similar.

if this drive was in fwd. the shift shaft coupler would be facing fore and aft. if in rev. it would be turned further yet to port.

glad yer getting a new gasket. i'd a got one even if i'd not have ripped the old one. probably would have even gone the extra mile and just got the kit that has all necessary gaskets and seals to R&R the drive.

 

[atomb]

Re: yup I did it again Outdrive was not in forward

yeah thanks for the pic and did get the kit . So Its just funny that on the stand it engages in fwd and n and rev.
But i have to say it slips out of both fwd and rev quite easily
im assuming this is normal and that i dont have to pen the upper and lower because it seems right at this point. Im going to go play with it a little and theres no pun intended with that last little nugget. well see if im still smiling in an hour

 

[atomb]

Re: yup I did it again Outdrive was not in forward

ell shes back on and in fwd she locks going ccw but ticks go rotating prop cw same scenario on reverse. Im assuming she fell out of fwd while installing -is that descriptiopn telltale of this scenario?

 

[atomb]

Re: yup I did it again Outdrive was not in forward

when you guys say lock in place on the stand in fwd or reverse ---is it reidiculous ly easy for it to fall out if bumped it seems to be on mine. I bungeed it .

 

[atomb]

Re: yup I did it again Outdrive was not in forward

could my ticking be ratfcheting in sound. As u can see im confused sorry...

 

[atomb]

Re: yup I did it again Outdrive was not in forward

that's the way i look at it too.
also, another way of saying what fm just said.
fwd=prop locks ccw and ratchets cw, shift shaft point straight forward
neu=prop free wheels with no sound or feel at all
rev.=prop locks cw and ratchets ccw.
.

now it seems to do what your saying but that ratcheting sound is making me really nervous.. Im not aboout to say turn the engine on unless i know for sure thats the correct sound. Im going to try and make a video. give me a few minutes..

 

[atomb]

Re: yup I did it again Outdrive was not in forward

drive unit video

Heres a link to my little video Im not sure if alls well.