has anybody tried a chi-com engine?

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Has anybody tried one of the Chinese made outboards?Susposed to a Yamaha nockoff marketed under the brand name Sail.
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: has anybody tried a chi-com engine?

don't plan to either. they're so confindent in the motor they sell it with repair parts as part of the package, and who's going to service it? it's like getting a YUGO serviced.
 
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DJ

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Re: has anybody tried a chi-com engine?

Never have and never will. The Chi-coms have NO respect for patent laws.

If we keep buying that stuff, the USA will become a second rate economic power.

As stated, no service, no parts.
 

whywhyzed

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Re: has anybody tried a chi-com engine?

I emailed a guy that was selling a used 15HP. He said it worked flawlessly, but he hadn't put many hours on it.
Word is they are made under license from Yamaha. I don't know how much BRP or Mercury stuff is made in the USA anymore...hard for me to say if these are any more Chinese than someone's Merc...
 

deejaycee_2000

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Re: has anybody tried a chi-com engine?

I checked these out online ...... would love to see how it performs ... see if it is any good .... it still isn't cheap though .....
 

whywhyzed

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Re: has anybody tried a chi-com engine?

yeah, they're not all that much less than the name brands... and as Tashasdaddy pointed out...if there's no local dealer, you have a very expensive throw away engine.... or a lot of shipping costs
 

TOHATSU GURU

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Re: has anybody tried a chi-com engine?

They are not available in the U.S. as they are not EPA approved.
 
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DJ

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Re: has anybody tried a chi-com engine?

Liscensed from Yamaha? Says who? The seller?

There is a big difference from something "assembled" here and a product from which the corporate headquarters is here.

But, I digress. Only American corporations are bad. So we have been told.

While there is still a choice, I'll buy American.
 

Bob_VT

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Re: has anybody tried a chi-com engine?

Laughing! Just like the chineese knock off atv's that claim they use a honda engine. It is a cheap BAD copy made with white metal parts instead of aluminum.

I bet they would make a decent anchor.

Djohns- "While there is still a choice, I'll buy American"

What American brand? Are there any true ones left? 8)
 

cobra 3.0

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Re: has anybody tried a chi-com engine?

I emailed the SAIL folks and was told it is a Yamaha copy but that's where it stops.

One of our largest Canadian chain stores, Canadian Tire, is now selling chinese made ATV's(250 cc largest), and small trail bikes. The quality is surprisingly high and there is very little "cheap" about them ...except the price. The product is quite basic compared to the larger models out there, but what is there looks and feels well made. You also have the support and warranty of an auto parts giant behind you.
 
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DJ

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Re: has anybody tried a chi-com engine?

Bob,

Mercury is still an all American Company. Johnson and Evinrude run a close second seeing as they are Canadian (at least North American).

The J & E etech seems to be a real winner.
 

tommays

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Re: has anybody tried a chi-com engine?

With mercurys NEW plant in china i dont thing i would call them all American

And for some reason a lot of my NEW merc hoses say made in CHINA :(

Tommays
 

deejaycee_2000

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Re: has anybody tried a chi-com engine?

I won one of those chinese ATV's in some competition and I can tell you that those things are tough, I couldn't believe it, you can see that the quality isn't the same as I have 2 x Yamaha ATV's, but I must say they keep up pretty well, they fall over quickly, but I can't believe I haven't broken it yet .... check this website about these sail outboards http://sailoutboardsworldwide.com
 
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DJ

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Re: has anybody tried a chi-com engine?

Would you feel better if they were assembled here entirely by robots?

A companies nationality has little to do with where the parts are assembled. Where is their corporate domain?

Last time I checked, Wisconsin is in the USA.
 

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Re: has anybody tried a chi-com engine?

I never see more the example of racism than here in this subject. I have heard it call "sour grapes" by some and i think that describes what is being here. The world economy (yes - even in u.s.) is now GLOBAL. Some should take a college class in entry level economics to get better understanding of this. Do not blame Chinese for building a quality at cheaper price. Please remember the 1970's in the u.s. automobile industry to remind you of low quality and company employees demanding huge salaries despite little education and poor craftmanship. I learn in schol at that time of how many in u.s. question quality of Japanese auto - now look at them!!!
 

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Re: has anybody tried a chi-com engine?

It is not racism. It is patriotism. we should support American companies. But, we should also support competition in the market place. Competition gives the incentive for high quality and lower prices.
 

cobra 3.0

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Re: has anybody tried a chi-com engine?

Yeah nothing but pure racism! The Chinese are the hardest working people on the planet! Everyone in the world wants China instead of every other nation to produce just about everything we consume! Can you find one thing not made in China anymore?
 

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Re: has anybody tried a chi-com engine?

Cheng said:
I never see more the example of racism than here in this subject. I have heard it call "sour grapes" by some and i think that describes what is being here. The world economy (yes - even in u.s.) is now GLOBAL. Some should take a college class in entry level economics to get better understanding of this. Do not blame Chinese for building a quality at cheaper price. Please remember the 1970's in the u.s. automobile industry to remind you of low quality and company employees demanding huge salaries despite little education and poor craftmanship. I learn in schol at that time of how many in u.s. question quality of Japanese auto - now look at them!!!

If you're going to be a troll, you should at least learn how to become a good one.

The reason why the quality of the Japanese autos at that time was under question was because it wasn't too long before when the mark "Made in Japan" too often meant "cheap piece of junk". The Japanese invested the time and effort starting in the 1950s to improve their quality control and although even in the early 1980's Japanese manufacturing costs were still substantially less than those in the US, they had by then earned the reputation of producing product that was equal to, if not in some cases superior, to North American or European product.

Like in post WWII Japan, the main attraction right now to mainland China is the cheap labor, even by East Asian standards. Instead of whining about 'sour grapes' and 'racism', your time would be better spent working on quality control and process improvement.
 

waterinthefuel

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Re: has anybody tried a chi-com engine?

I strayed away from the Chinese scooters because I was told they were cheap pieces of junk. I was also told to stay away from (not by as many, but by a few) Kymco, which is made in Tiawan. Well, interestingly enough, "Made in Tiawan" is plastered all over my Yamaha Vino 125, what I ended up buying.

I would have gone with Kymco had a dealer been closer.
 
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