Scenario Discussion

[eeboater]

The year is 2010. President Feingold has received notification from the intelligence community that Iran now has a working Nuclear Missle program. Iran has performed several successful tests in the remote areas of Iran. They also have missles that the intelligence community has confirmed can reach New York. Over the previous 4 years, the president of Iran has continually spewed the traditional hate for the USA that he had in the past.

Along with the info about the long range missles; President Feingold was informed of 5 bunkers holding these nuclear missles.

Question: Does Feingold make a pre-emptive strike on Iran to blow up their bunkers containing the missles?

 

[LFK]

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No. If Iran nukes NY, that means it was God's will. Just ask Pat Robertson.

 

[TAV MAN]

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EEBOATER You scared me:%:%:%:% (not Feingold anyone but him)I agreed with LKF

 

[alden135]

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I hate to say it, but if Feingold is faced with that scenario it will be because Bush didn't do what he needed to when he had the chance.


Blow off the UN and protect ourselves, that's what Alden say.

 

[kenimpzoom]

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If any president has any balls at all he will destroy any WMD possesed by or can easily fall into the hands of a radical muslim.

Note: keep a very keen eye on Pakistan and North Korea. One flinch towards radicalism or sales of WMD and they are on the hit list too.

Ken

 

[eeboater]

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EEBOATER You scared me:%:%:%:% (not Feingold anyone but him)I agreed with LKF

TAV... you and I are in the same boat.... Pun intended 8)

 

[POINTER94]

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Feingold would do nothing. He would want to "talk" and "negotiate" maybe involve the UN.

Anything that takes a backbone, look elsewhere. Feingold the idiot wants the President to stop calling Islamo Facists, Islamo Facists because it might offend an Islamo Facist.

 

[crunch]

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Feingold would do nothing. He would want to "talk" and "negotiate" maybe involve the UN.

Anything that takes a backbone, look elsewhere. Feingold the idiot wants the President to stop calling Islamo Facists, Islamo Facists because it might offend an Islamo Facist.

Captian, this does not compute.... WHAT??

 

[Skinnywater]

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Feingold would do nothing. He would want to "talk" and "negotiate" maybe involve the UN.

Kinda like what's being done now.
So what's the latest? An "economic package" for Iran if they lay off the nukes? Seems that was tried with N. Korea.
Taxpayer funded payola.
So much for "dire and severe" consequences.

 

[QC]

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Question: Does Feingold make a pre-emptive strike on Iran to blow up their bunkers containing the missles?

Yes, he would order the preemptive strike, but when the missile busting missiles were half way there he would ask to stop them because he changed his mind . . .

 

[PW2]

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Do you folks have anything to offer but fear and more fear?

 

[Haut Medoc]

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Why, QC?
Was it foggy that day?

 

[gonefishie]

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What if it was president Swchartzeneger?
"If you a..hole want some more, I'll be backk!" 8)

 

[jtexas]

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If it was President Schwartzenagger then it wouldn't be the United States of America.

What kind of hooker did the republican candidate get caught with that led to this Feingold guy getting elected anyway?

 

[rodbolt]

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if pre-emptives worked so well then why didnt reagan just nuke russia ?

even if Iran launched what are the odds of launch detaction and shoot down over the 30-45 min flight plan?
and while these guys are nutty they are still fully aware that a launch would bring instant and permmanant retaliation.
I worry more about dirty bombs in unsecured ports and unsearched containers than any third world missle attempt.

good thing Bush's Right hand man ,Chertoff, in Home land bungling has that base covered.

or maybe a van full of Bioengineered bugs stolen from Russia,read the book Bio Hazard, driven in from canada.

like I say its a very very good thing these terrorists are few and have no immagination or we would be in deep deep dooky.

 

[Plainsman]

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if pre-emptives worked so well then why didnt reagan just nuke russia ?[/qoute]

Because they could have wiped us out as well

even if Iran launched what are the odds of launch detaction and shoot down over the 30-45 min flight plan?
and while these guys are nutty they are still fully aware that a launch would bring instant and permmanant retaliation.

I hope so!

I worry more about dirty bombs in unsecured ports and unsearched containers than any third world missle attempt.

good thing Bush's Right hand man ,Chertoff, in Home land bungling has that base covered.

I shiver at this, but what would President Gore or Kerry have done? You obviously have the answer. Care to share?

or maybe a van full of Bioengineered bugs stolen from Russia,read the book Bio Hazard, driven in from canada.

like I say its a very very good thing these terrorists are few and have no immagination or we would be in deep deep dooky.

 

[QC]

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even if Iran launched what are the odds of launch detaction and shoot down over the 30-45 min flight plan?

The question was would he launch to destroy the bunker . . .

I worry more about dirty bombs in unsecured ports and unsearched containers than any third world missle attempt.

And in case anybody still doesn't get it, that, right there, in very clear rodbolt language, is why we went into Iraq, and why it is part of the war on terror, and why it was the right thing to do . . .

My comment about Feingold changing his mind is a reference to what his merry little band did when they had information after the decision was made. Just like any stupid Monday morning quarterback does when the time to make the call is gone . . . They don't pay professional coaches to make decisions after there is a need to make one!!

 

[rodbolt]

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well at a minimum copy what is done in hong kong, seems they and several other nations have a 100% inspection policy and ship more containers. they nuist have some kind of plan.

no I dont have any answers or at least none that will be likly to be implemented, I can state and you cant refute that the billions we have spent so far have not secured any ports or borders and have mostly been reactive instead of proactive.
if any terror group had an immagination we would be so deep in dooky it aint funny.
even bin laden only got half,or less,of what he paid for on 9/11.
however I wont trust to blind luck that sooner or later one of the nuts will have a light bulb go off.
and ya really really think China or Russia is gonna allow us to cover them in nuclear fallout now instead of then?
you must remember that they still control,kinda, a large nuke stockpile with multiple warhead missles capeable of self targeting over ten targets from a single missle.

while shroom clouds look cool on the TV, as does delta force always winning. real life is a tad different.
I just pray I am someplace else if one of those nuts gets an immagination.
yep its all Kerry's fault, heck lets toss clinton in. however this administration has had 6 years to do something, well I guess nothing is something.

 

[LFK]

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I shiver at this, but what would President Gore or Kerry have done? You obviously have the answer. Care to share?

It couldn't have been any worse than the FUBAR situation we have going on right now. Nothing good will come of our invasion of Iraq. They were not a threat to us, our battle was elsewhere, and at least Sadam kept the monkeys in their cages in the area he controlled.

Besides, I thought that Pointer was the only psychic around here.

Feingold would do nothing. He would want to "talk" and "negotiate" maybe involve the UN.

 

[QC]

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Just one quick question because I honestly do not know. If we blow up nuclear warheads and the missiles that would carry them on the ground, do they detonate? I thought I understood they would not, but again don't know . . .

Also, I do have trust that almost any administration would do the right thing when they enter the oval office. All the rhetoric and partisan BS goes out the window when you are da man . . . Who in his right mind wants to be the one who didn't stop a nuke from hitting the US? I also believe that our intelligence agencies are nowhere near as stupid as they are portrayed in the press. They definitely know more about what the risks of the port scenarios are than we do. We have no way of knowing how many mini-plots or maxi-plots have been thwarted. Theirs is a thankless job. When they are successful, most of the time, nobody knows . . .