The Surge Is Succeeding

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That's tragic news for liberals everywhere.
 

Boomyal

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A paragraph quote from the article for the blind amongst us to see.

[colour=red]"Some observers are reporting the shift. Iraqi bloggers Mohammed and Omar Fadhil, widely respected for their straight talk, say that "early signs are encouraging." The first impact of the "surge," they write, was psychological. Both friends and foes in Iraq had been convinced, in no small part by the American media, that the United States was preparing to pull out. When the opposite occurred, this alone shifted the dynamic."[/colour]

The rank in file Hillary/Kerry/Gore/Dean/Pelosi/Reid Democrats are not any more astute at assessing cause and effect than they are at connecting the dots.

What in Heavens name did that other half think was going to happen when their news media was full of doom and gloom for these ought years? But then that's just the point, they didn't. They just followed their leaders, blindly hoping for some more government control over their lives and more Government handouts.

All the while, their leaders new exactly what the effect would be. We would lose, so would the Conservatives.
 

Tail_Gunner

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After the Dan Rather speed bump, the major network's no longer have any creedence with me @ all, For the first time in my life i no longer even watch the CBS evening new's.............what a croc. (nor ABC or NBC)
 

xtraham

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OldMercsRule said:
(like the honorable Senator John F Kerry)

as a recent stroke survivor I know the symptoms.
are you ok buddy? or do we need to call for help?
 

POINTER94

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Look, we CANNOT succeed. It just isn't possible. All is lost. We must surrender to the UN as soon as possible. :}:}:}

We need to cut funding to the troops immediately. How about a non-binding resolution declaring defeat and show our hand to the enemy. Victory is not important when the French are mad at us. :|
 

QC

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OK. Any wagers on which one first says: "I am now in favor of finishing this fine job our soldiers are doing."? I've got a 10 spot on Ms. Rodham Clinton; she is obviously willing to be anybody she needs to be, any day, anywhere. "I was born a poor black woman" . . .

This could actually come from a Republican too :}
 

Boomyal

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When the Iraqi people gain confidence and think things are getting better, that's when things really will. They haven't dared to participate. They have been beaten down for so long and abandoned once before by the US.

Who can blame them for shutting their doors and turning their shoulder when the insurgency, emboldened by the American Media and all of our Weak kneed European counterparts keep saying, pull out, pull out.
 

waterinthefuel

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OMR, I see the problem. Your source of information isn't nearly liberal enough.
 

POINTER94

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QC, are trying to say someone might actually say they voted for it, before they voted against it, but really meant to vote for it?

What kind of an idiot would do that?
 

QC

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POINTER94 said:
QC, are trying to say someone might actually say they voted for it, before they voted against it, but really meant to vote for it?

What kind of an idiot would do that?
That's exactly what I am saying, and I defined my favorite idiot . . .

Ruling please: I understand that I cannot call Pointer an idiot. Can I call a non-member an idiot?
Yes you can......
 

Plainsman

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QC, you can me me an idiot, heck even tree can call me one! And the dems are worried for sure.
 

rolmops

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Gentlemen,you still have not learned much about the Bedouin Arab mindset.Remember how easy it was in the war?We came in great force. There was hardly any resistance and it seemed a great success. We all know what this success turned into and it was not because of "liberals",but because the Bedouin are extremely efficient underground fighters who know when to fight and when to lay low.
Once the troop level goes down again,as it surely will,they will come back out of the woodwork and pick up where they left off.
If you read the article carefully,you will see that all the leaders fled and they did not get caught and they were not killed.
If we really want to win there, it will take some crude measures such as the wholesale killing of a tribe or 2 ,because that changes reality.
The reason why the Iraqi government deliberately dragged its feet for almost 2 weeks in starting the surge operation was mostly so the fighters would have time to hide their weapons and move out of the way.
These people love fighting each other,but they will unite to get the foreigners out.Once the foreigners are gone they will go back to fighting each other.
Please do not be so naive as to think that this Surge changed reality,it just slowed it down a bit.
 

PW2

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Don't confuse them, Rolmops

Say, "By golly you were right and I was wrong. How could I have been so foolish!"

Now can we go home?
 

Vlad D Impeller

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"If we really want to win there, it will take some crude measures such as the wholesale killing of a tribe or 2 ,because that changes reality."

Rolmops, I do agree with what you said, but i don't believe the US will get frustrated to the point of foolishly commiting genocide, that is what we are trying to prevent from happening with some small successes, perhaps as we move forward there will be more gains which may yet alter the outcome of our endeavours, let's hope that is the case.
 

POINTER94

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Killing a tribe or two? Come on..........

Look what happened when we abused underwear.
 

OldMercsRule

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xtraham said:
OldMercsRule said:
(like the honorable Senator John F Kerry)

as a recent stroke survivor I know the symptoms.
are you ok buddy? or do we need to call for help?

Yes Tom I'm fine! I'm just getting into the spirit as per JB's instructions! It did hurt a little to say the conventional salutation but I'll recover after a bit. Honorable and Kerry does have a false hollow ring to it, but that is the convention. JR :$8)
 

treedancer

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Killing a tribe or two? Come on..........

Look what happened when we abused underwear.



?.......?:%
 

Haut Medoc

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Murky, according to a recent ruling you are allowed to call non DC members names.....;)
So, you can call John, "That Puke".......
If you so desire.......;):)
 
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