What do you think about the Chinese Exec who commit suicide?

[Mark42]

The short version...

Cheung Shu-hung, a co-owner of the Lee Der Industrial in southern China, came under severe pressure in August after El Segundo, Calif.-based Mattel voluntarily recalled nearly 1 million plastic preschool toys made by Lee Der and containing paint with excessive levels of lead.

State media reported Monday that Cheung greeted workers over the weekend, chatted with them, then went to the warehouse and hanged himself.

According to the Southern Metropolitan Daily newspaper, Cheung, reportedly in his 50s and unmarried, was sold the defective paint by his best friend.

Last week, Mattel identified Lee Der as the sole source of its lead-paint problem. Adding to the pressure on Cheung, Mattel invited competitors to sever their relationship with the Chinese supplier.

Reports of his death spread quickly through China's toy industry.

"I'm surprised to hear about his suicide," said Xu Quanning, secretary of the Shanghai Toy Association. "Then again, $30 million is a huge financial hit. He must have known about the lead paint. It's almost impossible the company chief wouldn't know."

You know he knew what was going on or he wouldn't have hung himself. It seems that China has embraced Democracy, but even more so, embraced corruption.

 

[OldMercsRule]

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This did surprize me when I heard it: Mark! I did not know the Chinese were into honor suicide. I knew it is accepted in Japan after a "great failure" in business or life. JR

 

[BoatBuoy]

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The short version...



You know he knew what was going on or he wouldn't have hung himself. It seems that China has embraced Democracy, but even more so, embraced corruption.

I'm not sure I agree with that.

"In a cynical move aimed at shoring up the ?Made in China? brand name, Chinese authorities executed Zheng Xiaoyu, the former head of the State Food and Drug Administration, on July 10 for accepting 6.5 million yuan ($US850,000) in bribes from eight pharmaceutical companies. He was accused of approving fake drugs and other substandard items during his tenure from 1998 to 2005, including an antibiotic that killed at least 10 people last year."

Executed for a $850,000 bribe. If we executed a few folks receiving bribes from lobbyists, I'll bet bribery would stop, quick.

 

[tommays]

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We are forced to use a few empty tubes ,jars and caps from china buy are clients

It is a FUBAR X 10 everytime and there so freaking greedy they always try again and again

Just had to reject 500,000 caps with a foil liner that will not seal


And i also do some incoming inspections on Chinese machinery for and importer brand new machines that can even interchange parts


Tommays

 

[i386]

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I was a little surprised to read that the other day. I wonder if it was because he dishonored himself or he feared execution.

A little off topic...

It will be interesting to see how "the market" sorts this out. I think we are seeing an example of goods that are manufactured cheaply because of lack of regulations (and lots of other reasons). End the end, we consumers end up with substandard and unsafe products sometimes. It's true that things often get worse before they get better. I think it will get better, but I'm very interested to see how. Like will the Chinese and other international vendors regulate their goods more? Will that raise their prices and make trading with them not profitable? Will US consumers affect the market by buying American made products when possible? That's stuff I think about anyway.

 

[JB]

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"Face" is very important to most Asians. Loss of "face" is worse than death.

I doubt that there was intent by that man to break the law involved. China is so new to mass production and USA laws they just haven't learned how to do it right yet.

 

[RubberFrog]

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Anybody that lets lead get into my kids toys SHOULD hang themself!

 

[Haut Medoc]

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1 down, 999,999,999 to go.....​

 

[bjcsc]

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Why did he hang himself? I thought they were supposed to disembowel themselves with swords...

 

[Haut Medoc]

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They would just market it as Chinese sushi..... ​

 

[WillyBWright]

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If mistakes = suicide, then we're all dead. Learn from them and grow from them. Just don't repeat them over and over and over and over and over.... (are ya listening Mister P?)

 

[puddle jumper]

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"Face" is very important to most Asians. Loss of "face" is worse than death.

I doubt that there was intent by that man to break the law involved. China is so new to mass production and USA laws they just haven't learned how to do it right yet.

I think jb hit it on the head. Over here we would be looking for a way out or to blame someone else.

 

[Vlad D Impeller]

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"Face" is very important to most Asians. Loss of "face" is worse than death.

I doubt that there was intent by that man to break the law involved. China is so new to mass production and USA laws they just haven't learned how to do it right yet.

What JB said.

 

[RubberFrog]

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If mistakes = suicide, then we're all dead. Learn from them and grow from them. Just don't repeat them over and over and over and over and over.... (are ya listening Mister P?)

When you're "mistake" includes putting poison into childrens toys... your number is up!

 

[RubberFrog]

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And let's stop pretending this was a mistake. Lead based paint is cheaper than the paint the FDA requires here in America. The chinese are known for their cheap, low quality knockoffs and this fiasco is a result of their corrupt culture that allows this type of fraud and trickery. Anybody that thinks they didn't use the lead as a cost savings is either in fantasy land or an idiot.

melamine in my dog food... oops, it was a "mistake."
poison in my toothpaste... oops, it was a "mistake."
lead in my kids toys... oops, it was a "mistake."

They've poisoned your dog, poisoned you, and now they're poisoning your kid? Somebody should definately hang!

 

[treedancer]

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Some of us that are old enough remember this happing in Japan thirty or so years ago. Of course Japan is a much freer society, so the adjustment was just maybe, a bit faster for them, plus at that time we had some out manufacturing base here.

 

[jasonh]

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Has anyone verified that the exec actually offed himself? I reason that there is a chance China knows what we want to hear and are giving us what we want. Could be the quickest and, most importantly, cheapest way to make the problem go away for a little while.

They issue a release saying he was so honorable that he chose death rather than face the parents of sickened kids and blah, blah, blah, then re-assign him to another province. I have a hard time with the idea that China is even remotely concerned about the health and well being of Americans. Any corner that can be cut will be cut if they think they can get away with.

 

[Haut Medoc]

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Has anyone verified that the exec actually offed himself? I reason that there is a chance China knows what we want to hear and are giving us what we want. Could be the quickest and, most importantly, cheapest way to make the problem go away for a little while.

They issue a release saying he was so honorable that he chose death rather than face the parents of sickened kids and blah, blah, blah, then re-assign him to another province. I have a hard time with the idea that China is even remotely concerned about the health and well being of Americans. Any corner that can be cut will be cut if they think they can get away with.

That is very plausible........
It would be great if Americans would starts a grassroots boycott of all Chinese carp......

 

[Vlad D Impeller]

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If any of you are familar with the difficulties that arises during a supply chain audit, perhaps you may not be in such a hurry to condem.

Have we forgotten the cause of the Challenger disaster?

 

[Haut Medoc]

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Cold 'o' rings, what's yer point?......​