Re: Idle screws non responsive
wire said:
ask your daddy for permission to undo the air cleaner box on his car, ask him to start it. Then, with a spray bottle of water, shoot a full spray directly into the intake
hmmm... daddy's toyota has a maf, not a map.... i won't even spray so called "mass airflow cleaner" at maf.
and by the way, i do it all the time. always works for me. i'm not giving the motor a misting, i'm fairly liberal with the spray bottle.
wire said:
I'm going to guess you're 21-24 years old, you mentioned you've taken some courses, and now you feel you'd like to offer advice to help people on these forums
nahhh... i'm 30... self employed, have been for the last 4 years. got a degree in marine technology when i was 24 though. as well as certificates from other schools/classes. i love my life... i work on boats from march to october/nov... take the rest of the season off and ski about 100 days a year. I get paid for that too!!

Telluride this year baby!!
The best part about it, is that I don't have to turn the wrench 40 hours a week. I work well over 40 when you take into account the endless emails, phone calls, and parts hunting. But i only spin it around 20... doesn't suck. It affords me a 3 bedroom home with a barn on an acre. a car, a truck, (the womans car that i somehow mostly pay for now) 4 boats (well... 2 real ones, 1 is a canoe and the other is an 8ft alumimonster with an old johnson 10 horse) My subieroo... (that i put new cams in today!!! can't wait till i get it all together tomorrow to test run it) got a yammahammer yz250, got a triumph TT, got a widescreed with surround sound. got one of those select comfort mattresses (which is why i never loose any sleep!!!) I have a building that I lease... it's not huge, but it's pretty. 1/2 my business is with clients... repeat business... so that automatically cuts any headache factor in half. and i got my good looks, and my endless charm to boot~~ honestly... who could complain about that??
on the otherhand. I bet your old, fat, and not so easy on the eyes. I bet your probably overworked, feel like your underpaid, and probably hate your job, and life in general. You probably wanted something better for yourself, like most people do, but never had the drive, the balls, or the brains to go out and do it yourself.
wire said:
You've obviously had no/very little actual experience and your physics knowledge is visibly lacking.
huh... physics???? listen, i never claimed to be the best mechanic in the world.. and i know i'm certainly not the worst.. however what makes my morgage is the fact that i'm resourcefull.
wire said:
i.e., The erroneous water vapor advice,
A tilted motor reading high on a dipstick,
Last week you recommended a boater with salt water in his engine cylinders wait until after the weekend and then take it to a shop.
And others before that.
1. yep... and not vapor bucko... full on streams of water from the spritzer is what i'm talking about.
2. a tilted motor will absolutely effect dipstick readings. Some more than others... however... I do it a few times a year at least... pumping out overfilled crankcases.
3. I actually recomended that he wire brush out the cylinder walls and heads, and roloc the head and block mating surfaces. (i don't use wire brushes on gaskted mating surfaces) and then i specifically recomended he coat the entire thing in wd40 or a similar water dispacing oil.... i recomended all those things then i said talk to a shop on monday, because honestly, the dude that wrote the original post didn't sound like he had a clue or an ounce of aptitude.... so whatchu talking bout willis??????
wire said:
A "lean pop"? You mean a backfire?
No dang it... i meant a lean pop..... as in up through the dang carb. last time i checked my powerwheels a backfire happens out the BACK!!!!!!!!!! as in through the dang exhaust!!
wire said:
IF there was one, at idle, it would go out of the carb, not through a tiny manifold leak.
no sh!t... how do you check for air leaks???? personally... and i don't know your way, so i can't say it's right or wrong, i start at the carb, specifically the throttle shaft seals, down to the base and mounting gaskets and out towards the perimeter of the manifold... i suppose you could start the other way around... doesn't hurt, but most of the air leaks i've found have been at the carb base and throttle seals.... so.. and i quote "it would go out the carb".... uhmmm yeah.
wire said:
And IF it happened to provide a flame near the propane torch, the worst it would do is light it. There's not enough propane coming out on a low setting to let it accumulate enough to do anything. Professional mechanics use it.
hmmmm maybe... but are you firemarshall bill all of a sudden? but you maybe also have the potental to lose your eyebrows... (or unibrows, to you canadians) also... to the unfamiliar... a lean pop will scare the crap outa ya. Hell i'm use to it and I had a 454 pop on me about a month ago during diagnoses... made me jump a bit.
Now lets say jon doe customer takes your advice and uses the torch. (which, i'm not argueing with you on wether or not it works, it absolutely will make the idle pick up... i don't use one because i find water to work just fine, and on top of that i'm on the ocean half the time, and with the breeze propane is useless) If johnny on the spot customer toasts his eyebrows, burns his face, gets the crap scared outa him and hits his head as he falls off the boat and gets run over by the QE2.... so what, right? I mean, your just like me... some dude on the internet. Theres hardly a possibility of legal recourse because you, some dude on the internet, said it was ok to do it like this.
I however, get real time customers that call me, and ask me for advice before they decide to bring the boat in, or call me out. And I understand why they do it... they want to learn, and they want to save a few bucks. The big difference between me and you wire, is that when somebody asks me how to test something, i'm going to tell them the SAFEST way i know how. When i get called out to a job that's a running issue... the first thing i do is put my KV meter on it... almost every time. I'll never recomend it to anyone, and the reason being is that I get bit every once in a while, it hurts, and it sucks, and i deal, and i move on. But there is no way i'd ever recomend to anyone using a kv meter. I don't know if johnny customer has a pacemaker, or poor balance. So you know... I just don't take the chance with anything i don't feel is safe for the less educated.
wire said:
Jason, I can guess you're not going to like my comments. I suppose you may even threaten to have me "soon learn to not contradict you!"
dude whatever... its your eyebrows. And if your customer hurts themselves on account of your advice, nomatter how uneducated the customer may be in interpreting your instructions, it's still on you, and not me.