Supercharger and 4.3 EFI

Mr. S2k

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First I would like to say hello to you all! :)

I would like to buy a supercharger kit for my 99 MerCruiser 4.3 EFI engine. But I can?t find any. I have spent countless hours searching for a kit but all I can find are kits for bigger V8 engines.
Because off oil pump failure I am rebuilding my engine, so I could throw in forged pistons too. I want low boost ? 5-6 psi.
I don?t want to buy a bigger engine because it is heavy and here in Slovenia expensive. And I have put allot hours already in this engine (complete paint job, polishing crankshaft, valve job,?) We made a new stainless steel exhaust manifolds too and saved 40kg !!! :cool:

Can you guys help me?

Thanks,
Miran
 

Bondo

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Re: Supercharger and 4.3 EFI

Ayuh,......

As you've already found,.... If you want to pull this off,....
It'll be a 1-off Custom done by yourself.......

I'd suggest Detuning a set-up for a V8.......
 

wca_tim

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Re: Supercharger and 4.3 EFI

if you do searches you'll find a lot of good information here. I've got a smaller boat with a 4.3 in it that I wanted a significant amount more power from. The bottome line was that from a cost standpoint, a reliability standpoint and even from a weight standpoint.... swapping to a v-8 was the clear winner.

I did a good bit of homework online, with some friends and with a few of the manufacturers and found that they can do a set-up for marine use, it seemed it would be easier to adapt the 350 set-up made for a carbed engine and go with a different ignition system (the carb enclosure box interefered with the factory distributor). The main problem I saw with the fuel injection set-up was the tuning issue and finding and balancing the right set of components that would also be marine rated. It clearly could be done and I'm sure has been, but when I took a closer look at many of the details over a month or so and then stod back and looked at the big picture, I can go with a 350 for cheaper, as little or less weight, and equal or greater performance - without stringing it out to the point where reliability is a substantial problem. This is true for a number of reasons. Note that this is the advice that a number of people here gave from personal experience. Buy a faster boat was also a common theme - and would have been good advice if I didn't enjoy monkying with things. Even tith the good advice from a number of the folks on here, I of course have to dig through the details and figure these things out for myself. That's half the fun for me personally...
 

rodbolt

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Re: Supercharger and 4.3 EFI

I think B&M makes a small 471 series kit for the 4.3, your biggest issue wont the the blower but the ECU reprogramming.
ad air and gues what? ya gotta add fuel.
the MEFI setup is not designed to accept positive pressure so an ECU change/reprogramming will be mandatory.
remember that set up uses a MAP sensor to determine manifold pressure, if manifold pressure exceeds atmospheric pressure the ECU will most likly set a code and default as its not programmed for positive pressures, then we have to move along to the fuel pulse width, you will need an ECU that can alter the pulsewidth based on boost values.
without it it will most likly run very rich at low speed low boost and very lean at above 5 PSI or so boost.
dunno what laws you have there concering marine gasoline enclosed engines but here its rather sticky.
there were some turbo charged 4.3 V6?s over the years that the ECU may work.
 

orion25

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Re: Supercharger and 4.3 EFI

Ditch the 4.3 and get a 5.7 (or 5.0) if you really want more power. This is not a car engine that hits 3K RPM on occasion. It is a marine engine that lives at 4K RPM. The 5.7 would live twice as long as your supercharged 4.3.
 

wca_tim

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As I mentioned above, I've looked into the issue of trying to get a significant gain in performance and as a "newcomer" to i/o boats got told a number of times to go with bigger engine / more cubes.

I picked up a 350 ca. 1989 vintage from what I can tell, original 260-270 horse, roller cam block (with hydrolic flat tappet cam in it), and decent old style 1.94 / 1.50 heads, mercruiser engine with everything for $500 last weekend. If you look and are patient you might run across something similar or boat that has one in it and an owner that just wants it out of the yeard (or who's wife or x wants it out of the yard...). The one I dragged home needs a water pump, turns over by hand or with the starter and shows even compression on the cylindars. I'm going to build to either 383 with cleaned up / marinized late model vortec heads or fresh "stock" bottom end and new aftermarket heads, either set-up gets new cam, blueprinted, balanced, etc...

Point is that using a cheap used small block engine set-up and readily available off the shelf parts, I wind up with a total upgrade investment of max $2,500, will probably gain gobs of torque and 100 to 150 horse if I'm relatively conservative in the engine build. That's with a very mild small block that should be very reliable is easy to tune, easy to work on and has a new and very solid for the amount of power bottom end. Note that going with aluminum exhaust manifolds on the 350, I make up all of the weight difference between the v6 and this engine. Oh, and don't forget that I get to offset the upgrade cost by seling the v6 package... it onlyu has about 40 hours on it, and has vortec heads, roller cam, edelbrock intake and carb, new manifolds and risers, etc... Since the 350 came with everything including bell housing, y pipe, alternator, intake and carb (4 barrel q-jet), starter, etc... I can sell the 4.3 as a complete replacement or upgrade engine that runs great has been carefully tuned and is just broken in.

The minimum cost for the 4.3 blower set-up without touching the bottom end would probably be in the $4k or higher (maybe a lot higher when said and done), and MIGHT be a major tuning headache... then once you get it right, if you're pushing the same kind of power you can get out of an inexpensive smallblock set-up say 350 horse, who knows how long until it comes unglued... The really tough thing is that there is very little available for the 4.3 once you get out of the realm of the typical stuff so after market parts are hard to find and expensive. and then finally, the weight thing... have you looked to see how much weight you gain if you go with true marein blower set-up? it puts you pretty close to the small block with cast manifolds in mst cases i think...

Of course there would be something kind of cool to having a 4.3 set-up with the blower on it...

Note that in either case you have to add the expense of a gear change and reprop... I found a used upper gearcase complete that looks very clean inside and out for under $400.

Just food for thought - I'm no expert.... Sorry to ramble, I type way to fast for my own good sometimes... Cheers! Tim R
 

Mr. S2k

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Re: Supercharger and 4.3 EFI

I agree with you guys that swapping an engine would be easier and cheaper.
But as I mentioned before I have put allot off my time and $ into my engine already.
And we made a custom molded platform ? we extended existing one for 40 cm and added quite a few kg to the rear end. :D

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Also here in Slovenia is very hard to find good boat parts especially the ones that I need. New ones are expensive too. For example new water cooling pump that I need is 270$ here.
I was thinking allot about making custom kit. For me making ˝hardware˝ is not problem but when coming to engine management, there is.
Anyway I thought it would be nice to add a few ponies simply with bolt on charger.
It would go nice with my new boat look.
I guess I will rebuild my engine and put it back in as it was. I have so much to fix on boat because it is so crappy built and season will be here again to fast.

Thanks all for info and your time!!!

Cheers!

Miran
 

bjcsc

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Re: Supercharger and 4.3 EFI

I checked out the link to your build. Looks like you did a great job. What was the picture with the blue supercharger? I couldn't read the posts...for some reason all the words in the text/descriptions have all the letters mixed up...;)
 

Don S

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Re: Supercharger and 4.3 EFI

What???? You mean you couldn't understand his reply :eek: :eek: :eek:


Ma?ina bo nanovo prebarvana in kompletno obnovljena.
Barva bo modra. Nekaj takega:

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Razmi?ljam pa ?e o kompresorju. Imam pa majčken problemček, ker ne najdem kita. Vse kar sem na?el na netu, je za večje V8 motorje. Tuning s kompresorjem je pri tem motorju enostaven, ker ?e ima vbrizg goriva - torej računalnik, ki se mu doda pigyback in je to to.
Če se ?e komu da mal poGooglat: motor je MerCruiser 4.3EFI.
 

Mr. S2k

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Re: Supercharger and 4.3 EFI

My link is from Slovenian forum. That is why you don’t understand text. That blue engine is there because we were talking about engine color. When finished it will be something like that.
I would start a new post here about renewing my engine but here is no PICTURE sub forum and I don’t know if I am allowed to open it here in Mercruiser, Volvo and OMC I/O or Inboard Engine Problems forum.

Cheers!

Miran
 

bomar76

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Re: Supercharger and 4.3 EFI

The Procharger set up for a Marine injected SBC would bolt right up, the problem will be the ECU, I don't know of anyone that specifically offers a 4.3 remapped option, so I'd check with Procharger about that.
procharger.com/marine.shtml
Get you wallet out, Procharger's are NOT CHEAP
 

bjcsc

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Re: Supercharger and 4.3 EFI

I would start a new post here about renewing my engine but here is no PICTURE sub forum and I don?t know if I am allowed to open it here in Mercruiser, Volvo and OMC I/O or Inboard Engine Problems forum.

Cheers!

Miran

You could start a new thread in this section, that's what it's for. You can post pictures, too. It would be very interesting as a bunch of us have 4.3Ls and it also might help someone out rebuilding one in the future...
 
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