Inline fuel filter

sebas54

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Does a 1988 gm 4.3l merc have a inline fuel filter.

I think that there is one right before the water seperator but when I went to change it it didn't match up with the one I bought.

The one that I bought was plastic without threads and the one on the boat was metal with threads.

I will post a pic in an hour or so.


Thank you.
 

Don S

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Re: Inline fuel filter

NO filters between the tank and the waterseperating fuel filter. That's what the water seperator fuel filter is for.
Besides, if it's plastic, it's a fire hazard and shouldn't be there anyway.
 

harborhound

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Re: Inline fuel filter

Hey sebas54
I just replaced the fuel filters in my 1988 GM 3L. There are two. One is just before the carb, and the other is at the bottom of the fule pump ( it may be a glass ball or a tin one ). Hope that helps.
 

Don S

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Re: Inline fuel filter

Hey sebas54
I just replaced the fuel filters in my 1988 GM 3L.

Your 3.0L inline 4 and his 4.3L V6 have completely different fuel systems. Don't try to compare them. It won't work.
 

sebas54

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Re: Inline fuel filter

These are the pics of the filters I think.

Will the new filters in the pic work?

If those black things aren't filters than what are they.


Thanks
 

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bomar76

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Re: Inline fuel filter

Those carded filters are something you would find on a lawnmower.
Unless you mow your grass with your boat, keep them off.
They are not safe, suitable, or legal on an inboard engine.
 

Don S

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Re: Inline fuel filter

That is a homemade system by someone without a clue. IT needs to be removed and a proper fuel system installed.


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sebas54

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Re: Inline fuel filter

What are the black things in the pic that are connecteed to the fuel filter/water seperator?
 

bomar76

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Re: Inline fuel filter

SWAG is a something off a 1972 Jeep Cherokee that was cobbled on.
 

Bondo

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Re: Inline fuel filter

Ayuh,.....

Looks like an electric fuel pump....
 

sebas54

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Re: Inline fuel filter

O God, so what is it. What do I need to replace??

What parts are they.

I am new to boating and engines, so sorry if I am asking stupid questions.
 

Don S

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I am new to boating and engines, so sorry if I am asking stupid questions.

The problem right now, is forums in general. Just because you can post on a forum does not make anyone a sudden boat mechanic. You have to be mechanically inclined and at least understand engines how and why the operated to figure out complicated problems.
And complicated problems are what old boats are made of. You bought a timing light without a clue of what they do, why they are needed, or even how to use one.
I'm a MARINE mechanic. I take my truck to the dealer for repairs. Boats may be toys, but that doesn't make their engine and drive systems easy to repair.
 

Maclin

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Re: Inline fuel filter

Did anyone else notice the OMC logo on the fuel filter/separator cannister housing?
 

Don S

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Did anyone else notice the OMC logo on the fuel cannister fitting?

Yea, I did. They are normally mounted on the engine! Part of the engine package. But it's all been re - engineered to do something it wasn't meant to do. And all we have is a small picture of the total engine system that may have been re - engineered.
 

sebas54

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Re: Inline fuel filter

Hi, Don S.

I never claimed to be a boat mechanic And yes I am mechanically inclined.
I have repaired my boat and maintained. I just started out boating last season and I already have acquired a wealth of knowledge.

With the help of this forum and all the nice people here I have learn a great deal and have been able to repair my boat many times.

I don't have anyone else to ask questions about boats. I don't have a father or any friends that know about boats so I depend on the help I get here at iboats.

If I am ask a question which you may think is stupid, I still want to know the answer. I am asking because I want to learn. If you don't think I am worthy of your answer than don't even bother responding. After all iboat is here to help people like me and not professional boat mechanics. Right?

So far the things that I?ve repaired on my boat are:

Disassimbale the entire top of the engine
Changed the heads
changed the risers
changed the manifolds
compression test
changed the plugs
changed the starter
changed the filters
disassembled the out drive
changed the impeller
changed the oils

The list goes on but there is no need for me to continue.
I have been able to do all this work by myself without any prior knowledge.

And yea I bought a timing light without having a clue how to use but now I do. I knew what to do with it but didn?t understand that all there was to it was to watch the light flash and line everything up. I guess that is pretty hard to explain! I am not afraid to learn new things.


Boats maybe toys and your right that doesn't make them easy to repair but I try my best and never give up.

So, thank you for all of your shared knowledge.

I am not here to BS, I want to learn and be able to be self reliant when it comes to fixing my boat.

If you would like I can post some more pics of my engine and you can tell me if it has been re- engineered

Please help don't insult.

Thanks
 

Maclin

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Re: Inline fuel filter

When I saw the OMC logo I was not even sure you had a Merc! But then I re-read some of the things the boat has put you through and that you have put yourself through. And regarding those compression numbers from a different post, if that is the same engine you started with last fall then you are one lucky SOB (Student On Board!). From just jamming the distributor in to thinking the electric fuel pump was a filter it is pretty amazing that it runs as good as it does now. You do seem to get to the bottom of things and get it pretty close to right eventually.

I do have a question about the starter, then I will get back to this thread's subject. When you ordered one for $100 is it a marine starter? Or did you just end up rebuilding yours? Pretty important to have a marine starter, especially with the non-stock cobbled together fuel system you have now.

Now back to that, I can see a wiring loom going to the large black cylinder, that was my clue that it was a fuel pump. The white cannister is the water separating fuel filter, they change out just like an oil filter.

Having typed all that in, none of that is how your boat came from the factory. I mean, the components may be similar but where they are mounted and the actual component itself is not from Merc. Maybe the boat started out with OMC power, or maybe the Merc fuel system failed and the owner at that time had an OMC setup, only they know how it got that way.

It is hard to debug stuff remotely from just descriptions and even pictures, ESPECIALLY when it is not stock and the current owner (bless his intrepid heart!) does not know how to recognize that it is a complete departure from standard.

So, that is quite a setup you have there. It is VERY easy to change the filter though, that is a plus. There are many minuses though, like the fuel hose should be double clamped which means that the fitting barbs need to be long enough for that. The hose in a loop is cute, but dangerous. It would not pass USCG standards I am sure.

Now, as to what to do about all that, I would start looking up what it should be like and start running down those components and plan on changing it all out and go back stock as Merc shipped it. You may need to contact previous owners to get some history, and perhaps even locate boats with your year of engine and drive and take a bazillion pictures. Get all the manuals also.

All luck to you, and start a web page for all of this, it would be a good read someday! ;)
 

sebas54

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Re: Inline fuel filter

Thank you,

Yes, it is the same boat from last fall. I finally got here back running in late November.

The starter is indeed a marine starter. I buy a lot of my boat parts from Ebasicpower.com they seem to have good prices but iboats is good as well.

I will take you advice and try and install the right components for the fuel pump and I will get rid of that looped fuel line. I have changed the water separator already I just wanted to make sure that there wasn't any other inline filter. Guess not, haha.

The previous owner was supposedly a mechanic and told me he had another boat which he used parts from to fix mine up with. I guess it was an OMC. He also told me that he got the engine from a junked truck.

A web site sound like a good idea.

Thanks
 

harborhound

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Re: Inline fuel filter

I agree with sebas54, if Don S aint got nothing nice to say-beat it. As for you being a marine mechanic, FYI i just had my boat to my truck mechanic because my marine mechanic couldn't fix it. By the way, a combustable engine is a combustable engine, boat or truck it still works the same way, the only difference with I/O marine is the parts attached have to be specific to marine so they don't cause a fire.
 

bomar76

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Re: Inline fuel filter

I agree with sebas54, if Don S aint got nothing nice to say-beat it. As for you being a marine mechanic, FYI i just had my boat to my truck mechanic because my marine mechanic couldn't fix it. By the way, a combustable engine is a combustable engine, boat or truck it still works the same way, the only difference with I/O marine is the parts attached have to be specific to marine so they don't cause a fire.

You have a lot to learn.....but it sounds as if you know it all already.
 

JustJason

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Re: Inline fuel filter

yep.... and the stuff that breaks on boats and the reasons why they do have about zero in common with any type of automobile...
 
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