My battery died on the water

nabularach

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I went down to take my boat out and when I tried to start it the battery was dead. I dont keep it on the water so it wasnt running the bilge or anything else. I jumped it and had a 25 minute drive out to the ocean. I stopped to fish for about 1 hour and when I tried to restart the battery was still dead. I would have thought 25 minutes was enough to charge. The battery is only a year old. Do you think I have a bad battery or my motors charging system? I will have the battery tested this week.
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: My battery died on the water

have the battery tested. they do not like to sit. when was the last time you fully charged it, or ran the boat. i would have never left the dock without knowing i had a good battery.
 

marine4003

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Re: My battery died on the water

Its alot easier to attempt an online diagnosis when the boat type...motor size and brand..year of everything..and weather its an outboard or I/O,otherwise theirs no way to begin suggesting what to do or what to look at...
 

nabularach

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Re: My battery died on the water

I left the dock with a jumper pack so I wouldnt have to call sea tow. I have an 86 force 125 outboard and the boat is a 19' Trophy center console. The battery was fully charged 3 weeks ago. I usually bring it home with me during the week. I just realized the last time I had the boat out My wifes father put the battery connections on backwards and it blew the circuit breaker for the starter. Could somthing have fried or possibly another breaker or fuse blown?
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: My battery died on the water

he fried your rectifier, your motor is not charging. crossing the battery cables immediately fries the rectifier, if not more.
 

Silvertip

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Re: My battery died on the water

Good charging system or not, a 25 minute wide open throttle run will not fully charge a dead battery. Agree with Tash -- there is a good chance the rectifier/regulator is toast. Put a voltmeter across the battery terminals with the engine running at about 1500 rpm. Anything less than 12.6 volts says the system is not charging. If you have a voltmeter on the console, that should have been a tip that the charging system is not working.
 

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Re: My battery died on the water

Charging system check:
Check your battery voltage before starting the engine. It should be around 12 volts. Then start your engine (jump start if necessary) and check the voltage again. With the engine running you should get between 13.5 and 14.5 volts. If the voltage is lower than 13.5, or higher than 14.5 you have a charging issue. Too low and the battery won't charge. Too high and you cook your battery.
Shut the engine down and wait a few minutes. Now check your battery voltage again. If it dropped back down below 12 volts, you probably have a dead cell, or excessive current drain.

Cranking check:
Next, do a voltage check while having somebody crank the engine. Put your meter leads directly on the battery posts, not on the cable clamps. While cranking, the voltage should remain above 9 volts or so. If it drops below this, your battery is most likely bad. If it does not, proceed to the next step.

Connection check:
Now check again while cranking but this time, put your positive lead on the batteries positive cable clamp, and the negative lead on a bare metal piece on your engine block.
You should get the same readings you did while directly on the battery posts. If you get a lower reading, you have a poor contact/corrosion somewhere in your battery cables.

Test for current drain:
If all these steps pass, disconnect your positive battery cable and set your meter to read amperage. Turn off, but do not disconnect, all electrical equipment. Place the positive meter lead on the battery post, and the negative lead on the battery cable. If you get a reading higher than a few milliamps, something is draining your battery. Disconnect things one at a time until the current draw goes away.
NOTE: ideally, with everything turned off, you get zero current flow but many modern electronic units, most notably CD player/radios have some parasitic draw that maintains programming memory, time etc. These values should be very low, less than 5 milliamps. This draw will eventually drain your battery in time, but it would be over a period of several months.

Edit: Yuppers... rectifiers are notoriously fickle about polarity. If reversed, they carry the batteries full current capacity straight to ground and go "POOF!" This also makes the charging voltage test a bit iffy. With an open rectifier, the voltage drops. With a shorted rectifier, it may not drop, but it becomes an AC voltage which will not charge a battery.
 
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nabularach

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Re: My battery died on the water

Thanks for the help guys. I had the boat out once since the terminals were reversed with no issues but the boat was probably just starting on the batterys remaining power. I didnt have any problems prior to the battery being put on backwards. I will order a rectifier today and check the battery.I would rather blow 30 bucks than be sitting on 4 of july weekend.

Thanks again all
 

Silvertip

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Re: My battery died on the water

No -- do the checks first to prove the regulator/rectifier is bad. THEN order one if it is.
 

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Re: My battery died on the water

No -- do the checks first to prove the regulator/rectifier is bad. THEN order one if it is.

Agreed! Even though there is a good chance that the rectifier is bad, what if there are other issues there. Without doing tests you still may be sitting on land for the 4th of July. Its a gamble to throw parts at a problem. Sometimes you win, but when you lose it sucks.
 
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