Lake champlain the sixth Great Lake??

[lyncraft_mechanic]

should Lake champlain be named the sixth Great lake? what your opinion?

 

[WizeOne]

Re: Lake champlain the sixth Great Lake??

should Lake champlain be named the sixth Great lake? what your opinion?

Howza 'bout I don't have a clue? You know something I don't?

 

[BaileysBoat]

Re: Lake champlain the sixth Great Lake??

Puddle.

 

[Gary H NC]

Re: Lake champlain the sixth Great Lake??

Took a ferry boat across it one time.It did not look that big

It was a very clean looking and very nice lake though...

 

[mickarch]

Re: Lake champlain the sixth Great Lake??

It looks like they already tried once in 1998 and it was rescinded. Seems like it was a ploy to get federal tax dollars.

At only 12 miles wide, I vote no.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_champlain

 

[Bob_VT]

Re: Lake champlain the sixth Great Lake??

Let this garbage go away.... we do not need it and it upsets Champ!!

 

[gonefishie]

Re: Lake champlain the sixth Great Lake??

Nope! Okeechobee is at 700 square miles, Champ is only 490. Salt lake =1700, Lake Iliamna, Alaska = 1000.

 

[PW2]

Re: Lake champlain the sixth Great Lake??

At minimum it is a very good lake.

 

[Expidia]

Re: Lake champlain the sixth Great Lake??

It actually already is the "6th" largest lake in the U.S. Right after the 5 great lakes.

We boat on it often.

I just read this in the book 2 nights ago.

Lake Champlain has an amazing history. Book says the mountains around it were formed 200 million years ago. Says the lake is an infant by geologic reckoning-- less than 12,000 years old!

For anyone ever going on Champlain or the Hudson River this book is must have.

"Cruising guide to the Hudson River, Lake Champlain and the St Lawrence river" by Alan and Susan McKibben. Beware there are a lot of older printings on the net for cheap. This most recent printing has a dark blue cover.

Gives the history of "every" port along the entire waterway. Places for gas and restaurants along the way too.

2006 edition can be bought on Amazon.com for around $25 usually with free shipping.

It's spiral bound and great to keep on a coffee table or better yet on board. Basically covers every mile of the entire waterway from NYC to Montreal and Quebec City.

Great gift idea for any East Coast boater!

Many ship wrecks are also strewn along Lake Champlain's bottom. The birth place of the U.S. Navy was in Whitehall, at the southern end where they built the first Colonial Naval fleet of ships. Just below Fort Ticonderoga.

In the summer we usually anchor in the many bays around Valcour Island (just South of Plattsburgh NY) to get out of the wind. I never knew it's rich history, until I read in the book that a famous battle (The Battle of Valcor) which delayed the invasion of the British coming down from Canada 1776 to 1777. This battle took place "right where we anchor" it was lead by Benedict Arnold, before he turned traitor!

How cool is that though? And to think I used to hate History in school and now because of boating . . . I love it!

Naming it the 6th Great Lake would only draw too much attention to this pristine mountainous lake. Aren't most of the other Great Lakes pretty much polluted?

 

[Docknocker]

Re: Lake champlain the sixth Great Lake??

Spent great summers on Champ as a kid on my Dads boat. Used to bring the boat up via the Champlain Canal from the Mohawk River every spring, and summer dock it about 20 miles south of Plattsburgh on the NY side. Back then Plattsburgh was home to an active SAC base, with B52 bombers on 24hr ready alert. Once in awhile we'd anchor off the end of the runway and watch those monsters scream in and outta there on training missions. 8 engines at full throttle on a loaded takeoff would make your ears bleed.
Great lake, great memories. Doesnt look too impressive on a chart or map, but being out in the middle with 200 ft below you when a squall riles her up will change your mind.

 

[gonefishie]

Re: Lake champlain the sixth Great Lake??

It actually already is the "6th" largest lake in the U.S. Right after the 5 great lakes.

Maybe by volume of water but not by surface acres or distance of shoreline.

 

[Expidia]

Re: Lake champlain the sixth Great Lake??

Maybe by volume of water but not by surface acres or distance of shoreline.

Just quoting from the book . . . but maybe not by counting individual Plankton either

It did reference that some areas are charted at 399 feet deep, between the town of Essex and Vermont on the opposite shore. That would give it the volume number.

 

[RotaryRacer]

Re: Lake champlain the sixth Great Lake??

Surface Area:

Superior = 31,820 sq mi
Huron = 23,010 sq mi
Michigan = 22,400 sq mi
Erie = 9,940 sq mi
Ontario = 7,540 sq mi

Champlain = 440 sq mi

Okeechobee = 730 sq mi

 

[Expidia]

Re: Lake champlain the sixth Great Lake??

Surface Area:

Superior = 31,820 sq mi
Huron = 23,010 sq mi
Michigan = 22,400 sq mi
Erie = 9,940 sq mi
Ontario = 7,540 sq mi

Champlain = 440 sq mi

Okeechobee = 730 sq mi

Lake Okeechobee & Region

expidia: Lake Okeechobee is at the center of South Florida's regional water management system, and is located in south-central Florida. The massive lake is a 730 square mile, relatively shallow lake with an average depth of 9 feet (2.7 meters), and is the second-largest freshwater lake located wholly within the continental United States, second only to Lake Michigan. Lake Okeechobee's drainage basin covers more than 4,600 square miles (11,913 km2).

It's a big'un alrighty . . . but at only an "average" 9 feet deep . . . up here we call that a swamp.

I'd have to sell my outboard and stick a table fan on the back of my boat to navigate that "lake"

 

[Rogue427]

Re: Lake champlain the sixth Great Lake??

No Somebody is just after Federal$$$

 

[JB]

Re: Lake champlain the sixth Great Lake??

The "Great Lakes" is a chain of the same waterway. While Champ is a nice lake it is not on that waterway.

It would make more sense to make Lake St. Claire a "Great Lake".

 

[Bondo]

Re: Lake champlain the sixth Great Lake??

While Champ is a nice lake it is not on that waterway.

Ayuh,....

Edit,....
I dug out a chart,.. Boy was I Wrong.....

 

[rolmops]

Re: Lake champlain the sixth Great Lake??

It should be called the 6th Great Lake so it will fall under the international great Lakes Consortium protection.That way it will be impossible for private companies to control this great natural resource that belongs to all of us.
Remember,several companies have tried to sell great lakes water to places as remote as Saudi Arabia and like with everything else, once the pillaging starts,it will not stop until there is nothing left to steal.

 

[sailor3X7]

Re: Lake champlain the sixth Great Lake??

I believe Lake St. Clair is 430 square miles. So, it would be difficult to justify Champlain being named one of the Great Lakes without including Lake St. Clair as the seventh. Especially with Lake St. Clair being located within the Great Lakes system.

 

[Expidia]

Re: Lake champlain the sixth Great Lake??

I was just quoting from a book (cruising lake champlain and the hudson river)on it being being touted that it should be registered as one of the great lakes. It too is connected to the great lakes, by the St Lawrence Seaway.

When I look up lake st clair it only averages a 10 foot deep which to me is more of a wetlands area than a great lake.

Overview
Located between lakes Huron and Erie, Lake St. Clair is the smallest lake in the Great Lakes system. Heart-shaped and shallow (averaging only 10 feet/3 meters deep), the lake requires periodic dredging to ensure bottom clearance for large ships. The northeastern portion of Lake St. Clair is an extensive delta system, the largest within the Great Lakes. The Michigan portion of the delta has been urbanized, while Ontario has set aside much of the wetlands as the Walpole Indian Reservation. Wetland loss from urban and recreational encroachment continues to be a problem on the U.S. side; and in Ontario, many of the wetland areas have been wiped out by agricultural drainage.

Champlain on the otherhand can reach depths up to 400 feet:

Champlain is a large body of fresh water. Approximately 1130 km? (435 square miles) in area, the lake is roughly 180 km (110 miles) long, and 19 km (12 miles) across at its widest point. The maximum depth is approximately 400 feet. The lake varies seasonally from about 95 to 100 feet above mean sea level.