Rename Kindergarden?????

[Mark42]

The local grade school has Kindergarden through 4th grade. I just learned that the Kindergarden grade has been renamed to "Pre-First". Apparently, some people felt that the 4 year olds that attend Kindergarden have problem with not having an official grade number. In order to not offend the 4 year olds, the title of Kindergarden has been changed to "Pre-First".

My wife is a member of the official "Moms Club" (Yahoo affiliation) and hosts meeting at our home twice a month. This topic came up and all the mothers were annoyed that Kindergarden got renamed.

I was home that day and suggested that anytime they were dealing with the school, to ALWAYS refer to Kindergarden as "Kindergarden" and nothing else. If the school corrected them, they should admonish the representitive for the name change and continue to use the title "Kindergarden".

The name Kindergarden means "Children's Garden", AKA a place where children get together and learn social interaction skills, like sharing and taking turns with toys. Exactly what a 4 year old needs. It is not Education in the strict sense of the word.

Just goes to show what can happen when you don't pay attention to the details of school meetings.

It also points out that there are some people who put the 4 year olds "feelings" above the traditional school structure. The parent that felt that Kindergarden should be renamed needs to have their head examined.

This is what the USA is coming to.

 

[Gary H NC]

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That is just stupid!
Whats next,Preschool?

These younger parents need a life! Why would a 4 year old care what its called!!!!Geeze!

 

[NelsonQ]

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I never went to "Kindergarten" It was always referred to as 'Primary', the year before grade one.

Now that was on the East coast. I now live in Central Canada where they call it Jr. and Sr. Kindergarten before grade one

But I'm with you Gary. What do 4 year old kids care? Irrelevant. Bunch of crack pots who are bored so they thought they'd create controversy. (Which apparently worked)

 

[Mark42]

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Yep. Its stupid. The "official" reason for changing the name is so ridiculous that we are going to have it changed back at the next school meeting.

This whole "feelings" society needs to get a smack in the head and pay attention to real problems, instead of worrying if they are offending 4 year olds who don't give a crap what their grade is called. (although the 4yrs olds do occasionally crap in school, it has a different connotation.).

 

[Gary H NC]

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This whole "feelings" society needs to get a smack in the head and pay attention to real problems,

Man,Thats the truth!!

 

[tashasdaddy]

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too many people taking psychology and only getting a "c" in it, think they are experts.

 

[scipper77]

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Not that I'm old enough to know but....

I hear stories from my grandparents generation about how the world was coming out of the great depression. If there was an opportunity to work you considered it a blessing. If you saw dandelions growing you cooked the greens and ate them. When people knew what it was to be truly disadvantaged they did what they had to do to make a good life for themselves.

Today, I sometimes feel that people have completely lost perspective on what is important in life.

What are we teaching our kids by acting like something so small is so important.

EDIT-- Thought about that last question and the answer is: We are teaching our kids to also have no perspective on what is important in life. ---EDIT

 

[wildmaninal]

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I nailed the new name right on the head before I even opened the thread. I was thinking pre-first or grade 0.

Yep people can't think of anything better to do, now lets just confuse the little rascals . Look at it one way, it would make it easier for the little ones to prenounce, and maybe even spell.

 

[PW2]

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Just curious. What possible difference does it make to anyone what they call it?

Does one require a certified teacher and some other name does not?

 

[KeyWestBoater]

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This is more typical PC junk where we have to be careful not to offend everyone of every type of minor persuasion. We can't call Dec. 25 Christmas or put Christmas trees or nativities in public places or schools because it might offend someone but every other kind of symbol can be put up. Can't mention God, it might offend someone. Before long we won't be allowed to chant USA, display Old Glory or put our hands over out heart as it might be offensive!

 

[Hoss the Hermit]

Re: Rename Kindergarden?????

This is more typical PC junk where we have to be careful not to offend everyone of every type of minor persuasion. We can't call Dec. 25 Christmas or put Christmas trees or nativities in public places or schools because it might offend someone but every other kind of symbol can be put up. Can't mention God, it might offend someone. Before long we won't be allowed to chant USA, display Old Glory or put our hands over out heart as it might be offensive!

EDIT: Not going there Hoss

 

[WizeOne]

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Just curious. What possible difference does it make to anyone what they call it?

Does one require a certified teacher and some other name does not?

Well PW, if it does not matter, why change it. And as in present case in point, why try to defend the change with such an oblique and yet transparent question?

 

[Beefer]

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Well, it sounds like kindergarten is now a bona-fide 'grade level', in which case, it should be 'taught' by licensed and degree-holding teachers. Which in turn would result in a new school levee to pay for the newly needed teaching staff, resulting in higher taxes, etc.... Or could call for an across-the-board paycut for the current teaching staff allowing for the salaries of the new teachers. Make those points, and see how fast it's Kindergarten again.

 

[Caveman Charlie]

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These days by the time you reach kindergarten (or what ever the heck they want to call it) you better be able to read, spell, count, do basic math, have some computer skills, and; most important of all; know how to kiss ***. Otherwise your falling behind already. If that happens they'll put you in special classes and you will be scared for life and never be able to get a decent job.

 

[scipper77]

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These days by the time you reach kindergarten (or what ever the heck they want to call it) you better be able to read, spell, count, do basic math, have some computer skills, and; most important of all; know how to kiss ***. Otherwise your falling behind already. If that happens they'll put you in special classes and you will be scared for life and never be able to get a decent job.

Wait, are we still allowed to call them special classes, or does that make the other classes feel like they are not special??

 

[JB]

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Now why would you think that, Charlie?

Half of High School Graduates today can't read, spell or do basic math. Maybe they should have gone to Kindergarten, but that is beside the point.

At any rate, your post is waaaay off topic and patent nonsense.

 

[Mark42]

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Yes, things are different. I still want to change kindergarden back to kindergarden. Maybe that will be the name on my boat, because it says so much about kids and their leaning experiences with other kids.


I'm a kid at heart.

 

[mthieme]

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I've said it before and I'll say it again...
The Country has gone to heck in a handbasket after the Duke died.

 

[Shizzy]

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we are raising a generation of soft kids. Ill prepared for the real world. given the world and allowed to suck on mommas teet til they are in their 30's.

just yesterday I was discussing a similar topic with a coworker. he is 35 and Im 31. we both came from back grounds with little money but hard working parents. we were discussing learning the hard way, cuts, bumps and bruises from falling off things or crashing in to things, Pops telling you to walk it off or asking if you are going to try that again. My momma didnt even wear an apron so there were no apron strings for me to hold on to. she was working. In fact my older sister and I had to share a pair of hand me down rollerskates. we would each put one on and scoot around. And guess what? I was plenty happy to have the one roller skate.

as sad as it sounds part of me is happy we are heading in to a possible serious recession. LOTS and LOTS of people are going to have to learn priorities and are going to realize quickly that the universe does NOT revolve around them and their child isnt the next Einstein.

 

[SgtMaj]

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Changing the name from kindergarten to pre-first doesn't even address the issue though!??? They want a numbered grade level... so you just rename it with a different non-numbered grade level? That's not going to fix the issue.

When I was a kid, it was the students who were petty and immature.