Lake Powell trip

redone4x4

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Im trying to do the research for a lake powell trip next year. Trying to figure out where to stay n stuff like that. I want to be as close to the water as possible and slip the boat the whole time we are there. Page is outside wahweap it seems, so can i stay at wahweap? or is lake powell resort better? are they the same place? ive been searching the web but cant specific answers. also, has anyone done a houseboat out of wahweap? that might be another option as well.
 

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Did a house boat out of Wahweap a long time ago. So long ago that prices and my experience are not relevant any more. A house boat is really the best way to see Lake Powell, but they are expensive so finding a hotel in Page is attractive. The Lake Powell Resort is a part of Wahweap, so it is the most convenient, but the reviews on various hotel websites are less than stellar. It is actually difficult to find a hotel in Page that has great reviews. They all seem to be equally bad, but I am sure some of the reviews are from people who are never satisfied. I am going to Powell in mid August and will be staying at the Travelodge. Not expecting anything special, but it should have AC to keep me cool at night, and give me a clean place to shower after a day on the water. Also consider Antelope Marina if you are staying in Page. Antelope is just as convenient as Wahweap, and if lake levels are so low that the Castle Rock Cut is closed, then Antelope will become your preferred launching point from Page. I read a couple months ago that a recent excavation now keeps the Cut passable when the water elevation is at/above 3,613 feet above sea level. The Cut has been open the last two summers, but is was closed for several seasons prior to last year. I am hearing rumors of an El Nino winter, so it is likely that there will be sufficient water to have the Cut open next summer. If you launch from Wahweap when the Cut is closed you are forced to run the gauntlet of the Narrows which is not recommended for a recreational sized boat. The Narrows can become dangerous when the larger tour boats enter and the wake from the large boats start to bounce off the canyon walls. The wake swells in the Narrows seem to amplify themselves to the point that it becomes very dangerous for a recreation sized boat.
 

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thanks, thats some good information. So how far is it from page to the actual wahweap marina? the houseboats are about $1000/day on average from what i saw. im thinkin hotel unless i can get another family in on it with us. I want to stay for 3 nights/4 days so a hotel would be best im figuring. a week or so, the houseboat might be better.
 
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I've done it both ways several times. Stayed at the Wahweap lodge or camped on shore, or Houseboated. Powell is a huge lake. I find that if you stay in the Wahweap/ Page area (Wahweap is 10-15 minutes by car from Page), you don't get very far up the lake, and you see the same stretches of water going to and from the marina. Also, as AguaSki mentioned, if you need to motor through the narrows during a high-traffic time, it can get very uncomfortable. A houseboat, on the other hand can be motored comfortably for two hours or so uplake, anchored, and make a great "jumping off" point for other parts of the lake. It is expensive, but if you get a good-sized craft, find another (small) family or two, (that you'd like to get to know really well:p) and split the costs.

We've rented from both Wahweap and Antelope Point and had a slightly better experience at AP. They seem to try just a wee bit harder to please. My $.02. Driving distance is about the same from Page.

Have fun.
 

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Stayed in Page 20 years ago and it was very nice (given where it is located). Stayed there again two years ago and it was a dump of cheap motels. We want to head back to the lake, but like redone, don't know where to find a good place to stay/eat. And, btw, I'm not spoiled and it doesn't take a lot to make me happy. Clean room, bed and property. Good, inexpensive food.
 

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rjlipscomb - Its good to hear you have the same take on the Page hotels that I have. I also don't think I am a hotel snob that is difficult to please. A clean climate controlled room that comes with basic services is not asking too much. I think every hotel in Page is in need of renovation. I figure it is wise to knock about 1.5 stars off whatever rating the hotel websites are giving the hotel. For example, a 3 star hotel in Page is the equivalent of a 1.5 star hotel in other cities. The star ratings for Page hotels are severely overstated. When I stay at the Page Travelodge this August I am going in with the mindset that I am just a step above the Wahweap campground. If I can get my mind right, then I am not disappointed with my room. Since most Page hotels are dumps, I try to book the cheapest room I can find and avoid the illusion that spending more money will somehow translate into a better room.
 

redone4x4

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wow, im glad i asked. sounds like the hotels are not so good. how about staying at wahweap marina? its around 100/night or so, thats what we are used to paying at lake mead. is it worth it, or are we better off staying in page? also, do they have any restaurants/pizza joints or anything? nothing fancy, just a place to take the kids to eat?

we are not hard to please either, but dont want bugs on the floor or anything dirty/weird that would freak the kids out lol.
 

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HA HA, I think you guys are right, check this out...

http://www.arizonahotels.com/city/page/?gclid=CPqjqLqq6JsCFRlcagodiHER6Q

I usually stay at the Best Western Arizona Inn and haven't had problems. Also stayed at the Courtyard ($) a few times and it was nice. Super8 super sucked. I haven't stayed up there in a few years though. The room rates go up somewhere around June 15th, so if you can book before then you can save a few bucks. Never been on Powell though, all work related.
 

redone4x4

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WHOA!!! $160/night for the one you mentioned, and thats cheap compared to a few others there. I checked all the way out to october. hmm. I was thinkin around $100/night. 160/night might change things.
 

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Don't know much about staying overnight at the marina. Yes, there are a few places at the marina to get some food, but there is not much variety. You might as well drive 5-10 minutes into Page if you are hungry, but there is nothing gourmet in Page. You can find typical fast food stuff which is normally fine for me and my family.

I may have overdone my bashing of the accommodations in Page. The people of Page are great and they are not intentionally abusing their facilities. Most of the hotels are just showing their age and in need of renovation. Despite the short comings, I continue to go back because Lake Powell is so overwhelmingly worth it. Don't let the hotels and dining in Page detour you from a trip to Lake Powell. As I mentioned earlier, lower your hotel expectations and you can tolerate what you get. Your time on the water at Lake Powell will more than make up for your evenings in Page. I can't seem to stay away from the place.

This website (http://www.wayneswords.com/) is the best on the web for information about Lake Powell. There is also a message board on the site that has Lake Powell specific postings. There are a lot of folks on that message board that have more Lake Powell experience than I do, and there is enough posting traffic that you can get your questions answered quickly.
 

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Aquaski, I'm with you not knocking Page. I figure they have a limited season of extraordinary demand which places a high burden on the upkeep and maintenance of the facilities, restaurants and people. Maybe in the off-season things get cleaned up and restored. I have certain expectations of what a Holiday Inn Express or a Courtyard by Marriott should be. Last time there, didn't reach those expectations. But, the Lake is the attraction that keeps everyone coming back.:cool:
 

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Ending June this year I lived in Page the previous 13 months. The lake is the attraction and the people will come no matter what and the town is so isolated that there is no competition. All that adds up to little motivation to maintain the properties. Because of the economy everyone is hurting. This is a good opportunity for bargains. Don't settle for the first price they offer.

However, the Best Western Arizona Inn recently finished some remodeling. The Days Inn down by the mall (Wal-Mart) is a good bargain too. ($65/night double occupancy) I got the Days Inn down to $35/night all fees and tax inclusive. The BW AZ Inn honors many corp and other discounts so check what you can get before you go. There are two BW, facing each other. The AZ Inn is on the north side of LP Blvd. I forget the name, but the steak house across the street is a good deal. Corner of Vista and LP Blvd.

The Castle Rock cut is now at 3610' and this year opened in early March. It is projected to stay open the rest of the year. 2008 was the first year the cut was opened in about 10 yrs. Last yr lake level ended above previous years so 2009 began a bit higher than other years.

With the cut open Wawheap marina is the better choice over Antelope Point. It's less than 3 miles from Page to the ramp. I had the seasonal pass for park access so I'm not sure the day rate. I think it begins at $5 then adds up if you have pets, multiple vehicles, etc.

Hogwash about the 'dangerous' narrows. I know what you're saying but never had I seen or heard that it could be so bad. Like anywhere, use your seaman skills. The only prob I could think of is if you are in a small boat with low freeboard and a badass engine weighing you down. Even then it would be not paying attention or just dumb luck which did you in. The annoyance of transiting the narrows is the no wake zone at Antelope Point marina. It's aggravatingly long.

Quagga Mussels are a threat to Lake Powell. As owner, it is your responsibility to have your boat clean. http://www.lakepowell.org/qmfacts.pdf

The best chart for the lake I've seen is the one produced by the late Stan Jones. They are for sale just about everywhere. God help you if you should need mechanical repairs in Page. My experience with just about every shop in town leaves a very bitter taste in my mouth. Even still expect upwards of $100/hr shop rates for unsatisfactory service. Rick at H2O Watersports on 6th St is the ONLY guy I trust. He's a straight shooter, honest, and dependable.

The Dam Bar & Grill has a very fine menu. The wait staff often is lacking but the seating is boothes, at the bar, or the outside porch. Outside is smoking so beware. The Blue Bhudda is suishi and behind the Dam Bar. Strombolli's is a good restaurant too. Ken's Old West...eh. It aint the big city so don't expect that.
 

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great write up on powell, thank you. MIght I ask, what were you doing for work up there that long?
 

RICHARD5

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great write up on powell, thank you. MIght I ask, what were you doing for work up there that long?
You are welcome.

I was flying scenic tours of the lake and vicinity. Got furloughed in the busiest month before the busiest holiday of the season. Very interesting how the FAA responded to a complaint of vaguely written overflight rules. Anyway, now I'm in SoCal looking for work.
 

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The Castle Rock cut is now at 3610' and this year opened in early March. It is projected to stay open the rest of the year. 2008 was the first year the cut was opened in about 10 yrs. Last yr lake level ended above previous years so 2009 began a bit higher than other years.

With the cut open Wawheap marina is the better choice over Antelope Point. It's less than 3 miles from Page to the ramp. I had the seasonal pass for park access so I'm not sure the day rate. I think it begins at $5 then adds up if you have pets, multiple vehicles, etc.

Hogwash about the 'dangerous' narrows. I know what you're saying but never had I seen or heard that it could be so bad. Like anywhere, use your seaman skills. The only prob I could think of is if you are in a small boat with low freeboard and a badass engine weighing you down. Even then it would be not paying attention or just dumb luck which did you in. The annoyance of transiting the narrows is the no wake zone at Antelope Point marina. It's aggravatingly long.
I agree with the exception that low freeboard boats can be swamped when towed behind houseboats. That may the reason for the reputation of the Narrows. With the Cutoff open, access to sights etc. is waaaaaaaaaaay better.
 

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Been boating in Powell the last few years. What my buddy and I do is go out of Wahweap towards Bullfrog. We would shore camp two - three nights somewhere half way between wahweap and Bullfrog and then boat to Bullfrog where we rent a slip (make sure you gas up at Dangling rope and visit Rainbow bridge). We stayed at the Bullfrog lodge (pretty nice lodge) for two nights (for the lady folks :D) and they have a shuttle that takes you from the marina to the lodge. (During this time, we would take the boat out and explore the east end of the lake. The Escalante Arm is beautiful). Then we would boat back to WAhweap and shore camp one night. Recover and the week is over :(. In Page, we stayed at the DAys Inn. I like it because it is not on the main city road, is next to Shell Gas, and across the street from Walmart. I find that if you have to slip the boat every night, you can't explore as much since 1/2 the time you boat out and then the other 1/2 is coming back!

hope that helps! Also reserve your hotel early! We book ours in March/April for July......

joe
 

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Even though a boater would expect fuel prices on Lake Powell to be higher, Dangling Rope is you-must-be-joking expensive. They should hand out free Rolaids with a fuel up. It's less at Bull Frog or Hall's Crossing. Consider tankering in approved gas cans. A small boat buying gas from a houseboat is not unheard of and I bet less that at DR.
 

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Even though a boater would expect fuel prices on Lake Powell to be higher, Dangling Rope is you-must-be-joking expensive. They should hand out free Rolaids with a fuel up. It's less at Bull Frog or Hall's Crossing. Consider tankering in approved gas cans. A small boat buying gas from a houseboat is not unheard of and I bet less that at DR.

given there is no way to get fuel there but by boat, i don't see that there so unreasonable. i do see boats hauling gas cans on swim platforms. and we have hauled gas our self a time or to.
really for what every thing costs, the gas at DR isn't that big of deal and it really nice to have them there. if they weren't it would be a long way going up or down lake if you needed help.
 

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And pumpout, and stuff, and repairs, and people and ice cream etc. etc. etc. . . . I love Dangling Rope!
 
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