The Great Wall V240. Chinese Pickup Truck

[gonefishie]

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do you think these new vehicles from china are going to hold up against salt and snow.
rob

I don't think Phil have to worry about that.

 

[gonefishie]

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The wife has been at me re a new vehicle and drags me around to the GM (Holden to us) dealership.....we know the sames manager.

He comes back with a price of $50k for a AWD thing called a Captiva LX, fully loaded, TDI motor.... then he tells her if she waits till end of the year they will have in the Great Wall X240. ......which I understand is also known as the Hover, for....wait for it....$26k...but it is manual 2.4 Petrol.

I have looked it up, and no, it is not the latest piece of technology, but the price is interesting.

Anyone had one, or know of anyone with one.

Here is the car.
Cheers
Phillip

http://images.google.com.au/images?...esult_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CCIQsAQwAw

Good looking ride. If it just hauls butts and groceries, why not? Lot better looking then the pick up you had looked at.

 

[jbjennings]

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I have never seen a single Chinese-made product that had ANY quality to it whatsoever. I bought a chinese 4-wheeler for my son (one of the few items I've ever bought more than a couple of hundred bucks brand new). Seen and handled many more Chinese products. They look nice at first glance but when you actually try to use them they literally fall apart. The 4-wheeler was just awful. I wondered HOW it could be made so badly BRAND NEW!? The front end seemed completely worn out with all the slack in the ball joints and such, before I ever cranked it up the first time. The engine was junk as well and I sold it before it had 10 hrs. of use on it. I just will never trust anything from China. From what I've seen, it isn't worth the money at almost any price. Products from Japan are usually good stuff, but China.......nope.
I wouldn't buy that car.
I've noticed that Europe and Africa have lots of small diesel pickups and cars. I wish we had more of those. We don't have ford rangers with diesels here, or small chevrolets with diesels. Not even import small trucks with diesels. We once had the ISUSU P'up pickups with diesels and they were awesome little trucks. They quit selling those here as well.
Interesting thread,
JBJ

 

[scipper77]

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I've noticed that Europe and Africa have lots of small diesel pickups and cars. I wish we had more of those. We don't have ford rangers with diesels here, or small chevrolets with diesels. Not even import small trucks with diesels. We once had the ISUSU P'up pickups with diesels and they were awesome little trucks. They quit selling those here as well.
Interesting thread,
JBJ

I started a thread a little while back on this very topic

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=332507

Check it out, I'm sure it will be interesting reading based on your above comment.

 

[windsors03cobra]

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I have never seen a single Chinese-made product that had ANY quality to it whatsoever. I bought a chinese 4-wheeler for my son (one of the few items I've ever bought more than a couple of hundred bucks brand new). Seen and handled many more Chinese products. They look nice at first glance but when you actually try to use them they literally fall apart. The 4-wheeler was just awful. I wondered HOW it could be made so badly BRAND NEW!? The front end seemed completely worn out with all the slack in the ball joints and such, before I ever cranked it up the first time. The engine was junk as well and I sold it before it had 10 hrs. of use on it. I just will never trust anything from China. From what I've seen, it isn't worth the money at almost any price. Products from Japan are usually good stuff, but China.......nope.
I wouldn't buy that car.
I've noticed that Europe and Africa have lots of small diesel pickups and cars. I wish we had more of those. We don't have ford rangers with diesels here, or small chevrolets with diesels. Not even import small trucks with diesels. We once had the ISUSU P'up pickups with diesels and they were awesome little trucks. They quit selling those here as well.
Interesting thread,
JBJ

Quoted all for the truth, put one of those $600 4 wheeler together for my friend and the engine had a bad transmission so they sent him a new motor/trans which was totally differnt and could not be fitted so they sent another one but the carb was a bit different we were able to cobble it together and it works but what a cheap POS. Remote start on a 4 wheeler ?

Those good little trucks they have overseas are usually pretty durable Nissans and Yota's. You cant kill those little Yota diesels and they will go just about anywhere with 4wd.
The Pup and little Mazda diesels were some real fuel pinchers.

Love that Mazda CX9 and would never lower myself to a cheap chinese knockoff.
Ford has all kinds off good diesel engines and automobiles in Europe, seems like Fords are really popular in Europe.

 

[Kiwi Phil]

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Here is a new Ford Ranger XLT, and I could only buy it with the 3 Litre Turbo Diesel.
Don't be fooled, this thing is quick for a truck....very quick, and it does 27mpg around town.
Problems....couldn't get cruise or leather seats, and junior has already dropped a spot of yoghurt on one...(@#$%^! H#$$)
They are made by Ford, GM, Toyota, Nissan, Mitzi, Mazda, Great Wall, and i think you have to special order a petrol (except for Great Wall...they are all petrol).
I would never go back to petrol....it is cleaner, more economical, faster.
Cheers
Phillip

 

[BWR1953]

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The Ranger was discontinued in the U.S. and 2009 was the last model year.

 

[scipper77]

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Awesome truck. I just don't get why diesels are so taboo here in the states. It just makes me want your ranger diesel even more because it's forbidden fruit.

By the way, since you have a pickup maybe you can gelp me move next week?

 

[windsors03cobra]

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I had not heard the Ranger was killed and found of hard to believe that Ford would go without a small truck, Wikipedia (I know, living encyclopedia mostly lies) says that the Ranger is going to be built until 2011 and then a replacement will succeed it, oddly enough being designed in Australia.
Also found this funny for the fuel pincher diesel fans (I am one)
From Wiki:
This new Ranger will greet buyers in 2012 and will be similar to the new international version. It is reported that the new truck will come with two engine choices: a 1.6 L EcoBoost four-cylinder, and the 3.0 L Duratorq diesel for models sold outside the U.S.

Maybe not Ford but someone recognizes the market for a small fuel pincher diesel and I think quite a few folks are interested in this little offering from the Indians ? 2.2 turbo diesel claimed 30 mpg with good quality.
The Mahindra Pik Up, 21-25 grand with a SUV on the way, onsale early to mid 2010.

 

[mscher]

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In the 70s, toyota, datsun were rust buckets, but then so were north american cars. then came hyundai products in the 80s, rust rust rust.
do you think these new vehicles from china are going to hold up against salt and snow.
rob

If I remember right, about this time, all manufacturers started using HSS (high strength steel), in the body panels. Stronger and lighter, but would almost rust, just by looking at it.

The Japanese really got caught with their pants down, even with Honda recalling all 1976 Accords. Ouch.

Metal cladding and coatings took care of the problem, as most cars, from the 90's on, have very little, if any, rust.

The Chinese are surely wise to this also,

 

[BWR1953]

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I had not heard the Ranger was killed and found of hard to believe that Ford would go without a small truck, Wikipedia (I know, living encyclopedia mostly lies) says that the Ranger is going to be built until 2011 and then a replacement will succeed it, oddly enough being designed in Australia.
Also found this funny for the fuel pincher diesel fans (I am one)
From Wiki:
This new Ranger will greet buyers in 2012 and will be similar to the new international version. It is reported that the new truck will come with two engine choices: a 1.6 L EcoBoost four-cylinder, and the 3.0 L Duratorq diesel for models sold outside the U.S.

Maybe not Ford but someone recognizes the market for a small fuel pincher diesel and I think quite a few folks are interested in this little offering from the Indians ? 2.2 turbo diesel claimed 30 mpg with good quality.
The Mahindra Pik Up, 21-25 grand with a SUV on the way, onsale early to mid 2010.

Interesting. I guess things changed a bit since July when I checked. At that time, Wikipedia said the Ranger was history and now they're saying just certain models are being discontinued. Personally, I like the little truck and hope it sticks around awhile. I was actually trying to purchase one in July but they weren't available with the stuff I wanted, so I bought my Audi instead. I'm happy with that choice!

 

[mscher]

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Quoted all for the truth, put one of those $600 4 wheeler together for my friend and the engine had a bad transmission so they sent him a new motor/trans which was totally differnt and could not be fitted so they sent another one but the carb was a bit different we were able to cobble it together and it works but what a cheap POS. Remote start on a 4 wheeler ?

Was it 1/10th as good as a $6000 Yamaha?

This has always been part of the problem.

Companies want Chinese-made items CHEAP, not quality. They'll order 20,000 1/2" wrenches and not even specify what type of steel they want. They will specify that they only want to pay 35 cents each for them. I like the story where a company purchased China made automotive fuses, without any testing or quality control. Turns out the fuses were made with metal, instead of bi-metal and therefore would never blow, no matter what. - ooops.

China has come a long ways since post Mao. Some of their manufacturing facilities are the most advanced in the world. I recently used some China made HVLP paint guns. 2 of them came in a nice case, a very nice illustrated 20 page user manual, cleaning brushes. Great quality and fit. Painted like a charm.

If we ignore the manufacturing potential of China, we will do so at our own peril.

USA needs to figure a way to start getting our own act together.

 

[jay_merrill]

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According to the conversion table that I just used, 27,000 Aus is about $24,900 US. If this vehicle had some history and that history rated it well against some of the well establish Japanese pickups, I might think it a reasonable price. Given the lack of proven performance and durability, however, I don't find it to be an attractive price at all.

Further, when you consider the very well known lack of quality control in regard to Chinese products in general (Chinese drywall problems, tainted food products, etc.), I wouldn't buy the vehicle at any price.



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[marine4003]

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I would hope we are all smart enough to realize that china, having zero unions nor GC and being the workers aren't motivated to build excellent products,would only produce junk..there's no reason for them to change,we keep buying it..they keep making it, as long as this Country keeps importing it with limited trade restrictions...were going to keep bitching about it.
So why are we surprised when it falls apart,its cheap,thats the reason we are suckered into paying for crap...So,given that...its our own fault.