Heavy boat

crackedglass

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I had to post this here. I bought a boat today to get it's motor and trailer and other various goodies. I pretty much knew the hull was junk but had no idea how bad it was till I got it home, or at least once I got it on the road.
The thing just felt heavy, I was right. It's an early 70's Glastron trihull, 17' long. It was advertised as a turn key boat on CL, one good look at it took care of that idea. The motor however is good, and the trailer is only a few years old. The first thing I noticed was the twin above deck fuel tanks enclosed in the left and right seat boxes made of 2x lumber. Two 36 gallon tanks under each seat. The next thing I noticed was the all too common suspicious step in the carpet where the floor goes under the splashwell, only this time, there's 5 steps. Peeling back the carpet revealed 5 layers of 3/4" plywood, plus the original floor. Then there's the matter of the 5 group 27 batteries, two for the motor, on a battery switch, one wired to the radio, alone and separate, then one for the fish finder, again, wired alone, and another wired to the nav lights. All 5 are group 27 size batteries to boot.
Then theres the near steady stream of water dripping/running from the drain plug, all the way home, and for 10 hours now, still going strong. The thing has to have a good 300 to 400 gallons of water weight. I had to know what it weighed so I ran it over to the truck stop for a weight. I was shocked to see the boat and trailer weigh in at over 5400lbs. I figure the hull should be no more than about 1000 - 1200 lbs, then the motor at about 325 lbs or so, but this thing is over weight by a ton or more. The huge fuel cap. plus water weight, plus all that wet plywood and you get the picture. The bad part was the last owner was using the boat just this weekend.
The good part is I bought the whole thing for NADA value on the motor. It gives me a really nice trailer, and a really clean motor for less than $400. The boat however is a good example of what not to do or what to expect from a used boat. I at no point ever considered the boat salvagable, but had to know what it weighed after it felt so heavy towing it home with my truck.
The seller did say it was a really heavy boat, but he thought that was a good thing. I don't thing he had any idea how bad the situation was in that boat on the water. Especially since I know he took it in the ocean at times. I thoroughly understand now why the last owner tried to extend the splashwell edge by 6" with an old tire, it no doubt was at the water line or below. It also has 6 bilge pumps, all wired to one switch, plus one massive bilge pump with a 2" outlet hose running right over the transom. He did say it took on a bit of water and to keep the bilge pump on at all times. The bigger bilge pump has a motor on it about 5" in diameter. I also haven't figured out the fish finder transducer location yet, it's mounted just below the rub rail on the transom. Maybe that was the water line while in the water? The near new looking tachometer is nice too, surface mounted on top of the dash with silicone sealer, the fish finder mount is broke, but silicone is holding that to the windshield and dash just fine. There's also a wooden dip stick hand marked to check the fuel in each 36 gallon tank. It felt like I had a 25' cabin cruiser in tow coming home. I won't get to see if it floats, there's a few huge silicone RTV patches on the hull, below the water line, so I don't care to test their seaworthness. The piece of railroad tie and all thread holding the motor on also don't exude confidence either.

The worst part is that someone thought this thing was worthy of a fresh motor and a new trailer just last year.
 

woosterken

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Re: Heavy boat

WHOA!! we have to have pictures of this dandy :)

woosterken
 

jonesg

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Re: Heavy boat

chainsaw it then take pics, be sure to send snapshots to PO.:)
 

Numlaar

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Re: Heavy boat

LOL that thing sounds crazy!

If he had hooked all them batteries in parallel he could probably troll for days with it hehe.

I too would love to see some pics of it.

He probably needed all that fuel to go out for a couple hours cause he was pushing so much weight LMAO
 

Lion hunter

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Re: Heavy boat

Did the key turn? Isn't that what they mean by turn key?
 

QC

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Re: Heavy boat

One bilge pump good, 5 more, better. One battery good, 4 more, better. One layer of plywood good, 4 more, better. One gallon of water good, 400 more, better . . . :eek:
 

erikgreen

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Re: Heavy boat

Heck yes... take pics of everything in detail and post... it'll make a great example of what to expect when buying a boat from clueless previous owners :)
 

ezmobee

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Re: Heavy boat

Awesome. Count me in for wanting to see pics.
 

chrishayes

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Re: Heavy boat

are you serious?????????You mean to tell me that his deck was thicker than my homes foundation? Really, thats almost 4" of deck:eek: When you stand in the boat, are your shins level with the cap? Not to mention the 5 group 27's probably weighed in at 40lbs each easy! This has to be a joke! Oh and that 5" motor is no bilge pump, its a sump pump for my basement! Can I have it?
 

jonesg

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Re: Heavy boat

he was actually building a staircase at the back of the boat...
multi levels are all the rage.
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Better use a sawzall rather than a chainsaw, theres going to be marine uh...drywall screws all over it.
 

reelfishin

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Re: Heavy boat

he was actually building a staircase at the back of the boat...
multi levels are all the rage.
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Better use a sawzall rather than a chainsaw, theres going to be marine uh...drywall screws all over it.

I was just thinking the same thing as I read through this. It reminds me of one I cut up last fall, also a trihull, only it had about 10 or so various widths of 2x lumber screwed in below the deck with 3/8" ply on top, then two layers of additional ply added over the years. The boat was so heavy the trailer was bending from the weight. I should have taken pics of that boat but was in too big of a hurry to get the eyesore out of the yard.

I agree, if that boat has that much wood, beware of screws and what ever else they may have used. I had one boat that had concrete floor leveler poured in for a floor surface and all of the upper cap cracks were patched with mortar. Needless to say that one didn't hang around long either.

If you can. take some pics and document the tear down if that's what your planning. It sounds like a real masterpiece to me.
 

henrye718

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Re: Heavy boat

If he was using it just recently thats one good boat still held together with all that extra weight!
 

tmcalavy

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Re: Heavy boat

Splitlevel construction is heavy, but not always pricey.
 

Lightnig

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Re: Heavy boat

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redfury

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Re: Heavy boat

THIS THREAD IS WORTHLESS WITHOUT PICS!

This needs to be documented, or I am going to call it urban legend! :D
 

crackedglass

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Re: Heavy boat

I here ya on the pics, I'll get some pics as soon as I get some daylight time off. I've been tied up all week.
I did have to put a kickstand brace on the motor today after I noticed the transom breaking away on the starboard side, it broke free and pulled back about 2" overnight.

I'm not sure whats more amazing here, the fact that this boat was in use, (it was definitely in use since I've seen it on the water as recently as last week), or the scary repairs that were made. A buddy heard it run and wanted to do some weekend fishing in it since it's complete, but I think that idea went out the window when he saw the motor hanging off the back on an angle this morning.
The guy that had it really didn't think it was all that bad, he was running it pretty far out several times a week.

The inner and outer transom fiberglass is compressed till both touch, then there's a chunk or heavy lumber in there with long all thread bolts through the motor and the transom. The steering link is wrong too, it only turns right, it stops only a few degrees to the left of center.

It's going to be a freebie once I pull the motor, controls, tanks, seats, etc.
The parts along with the trailer will be much better off on a light aluminum boat. Of course, I'll most likely have to cut it up, or at least dispose of some of it piece by piece. I'm not up for paying to dump it by the pound whole.
 
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