NY Saltwater license

[levittownnick]

I beleieve that the ocean is GOD given and as such no state has the right to regulate who can fish where and how much it should cost.

In order to limit my rant, I will just state that I have no kind words for anyone in the New York State government that had anything to do with passing the requirement for a salt water fishing license.

 

[dingbat]

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Don't blame the State. If they didn't implement some sort of Ocean fishing license the Feds would have stepped in and done it for them. The Feds are still going to step in and take over completely in 2011

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2008/20081223_registry.html

However the primary reason for this change results from new federal regulations originally mandated by Congress. Florida and all other coastal states are rushing to beat a Jan. 1, 2010, deadline set by NOAA Fisheries.

On that date, NOAA will institute a National Saltwater Angler Registry. In states where no approved licensing programs exist, anglers must register with NOAA by calling a toll-free number or signing up online. No federal fee would be charged in 2010, but anglers would pay an estimated $15 to $25 a year beginning in 2011. Money collected would go to NOAA versus state agencies.

This requirement reportedly stems from a 2007 statute approved by Congress to improve data collection from the recreational fishing sector. Scientists need to know the economic and fisheries/environmental impact of the nation's estimated 15 million-plus saltwater anglers, NOAA says.

 

[BLU LUNCH]

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As of 7/1/2009 we were required to have here in Connecticut.

 

[levittownnick]

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I sincerely thank you for the information but beleieve we are speeding toward a Police State.

 

[LiLGrady17]

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Rec Anglers are getting the shaft, again.. If its not bad enough foreign countries can travel from around the world & fish off our shores for free, the discrepancy between the Commercials/ recreation fishing are killing us..
Pretty soon, a revolutionary lure will be added to many tackle boxes---
A MAGNET, to catch those cans of TUNA!!

& They'll probably want to limit those too!!

 

[triumphrick]

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Yep, the fed's are now requiring all coastal states to enact some form of licensing or it will be done by them. In Florida it has resulted in land and pier fishermen to become licensed. That was free here for many years. Lot's of people up in arms about all this...

 

[Fly Rod]

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Rec Anglers are getting the shaft, again.. If its not bad enough foreign countries can travel from around the world & fish off our shores for free, the discrepancy between the Commercials/ recreation fishing are killing us..
Pretty soon, a revolutionary lure will be added to many tackle boxes---
A MAGNET, to catch those cans of TUNA!!

& They'll probably want to limit those too!!

Excusa mea sir, thea discprepancia is I alreadia pay thea governmenta 265.00 dullar plusa 35.00 stripa bassee licencee to fish. Whata you paya?

 

[LiLGrady17]

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Excusa mea sir, thea discprepancia is I alreadia pay thea governmenta 265.00 dullar plusa 35.00 stripa bassee licencee to fish. Whata you paya?

I was thinking of the allocations allotments of poundage between the recs & comms, but since you mention license fees.. Its not so much how much I pay, it's what I can keep..I didn't get a single keeper fluke this year, although I refuse to 'Pay' for a RSA Permitted boat.. So If I bought a liscense for this year, I got nothing out of it. Whats your min fluke length for a commercial, for your $265, 14"?? I'd be willing to foot that bill, and I'm sure many others too, to take keeper fish all season long.. As for your fees paid, I burned more $$$ in gas attempting to land a keeper fluke here in NY, a full 7 inches more than commercials' lengths...

Not looking to get in a ***-for-tat here, but what are we getting for this $10 License? Nothing.
It's just a revenue generator.

 

[wajajaja02]

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I WAS going to try fishing next year on the hudson, guess not.

 

[Stachi]

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Just where do these recreational salt water fishing liscense fees end up ? and why were these laws enacted ?...SHEESH !

 

[lowkee]

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Scientists need to know the economic impact of the nation's estimated 15 million-plus saltwater anglers

I'll save the 'scientists' the bother... Every one of those 15 million-plus anglers will be $15-$25 poorer through yet another 'nature tax'.

Live in an inner city where you don't produce anything, have everything trucked in from thousands of miles away and leech from nature, we'll subsidize you.
Try to live amongst nature and save this planet.. that'll cost you.

 

[walt-oxie1]

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I have to buy a $15 salt water fishing license to fish with rod and reel even though I pay $300 a year for a commercial fishing license in NC. When I lived in FL I had to get a license there also. I think it was $15 also. In NC they actually have new ramps, parks, and upgrades to both that are funded by the license fees. It has and will be worth the $15 to me. I save more than that a day in gas because of a new ramp.

 

[levittownnick]

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The fact that others have to pay hundreds in fees is NO consolation to me. As far as I am concerned we went from the land of the "free" to the land of the "FEE". The BS about science is just business grabbing grants. Greed personified.

I know that I'm biting off my nose to spite my face but I didn't buy the license and have not fished since this requirement. I know that I would have spent many enjoyable hours fishing but I am so aggrivated that for now I quit. I know that I will breakdown and get back to fishing. I wish all who had any part in this license thing to have the same agrivation I am experiencing. I also know that they will not have the agrivation because it would mean that they have a conscience.

 

[rodbolt]

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I know the feeling, paying a 15 dollar fee to cast a line for some spot or croakers in the surf irritates me.
couple that with our INSANE commercial fisheries regulations its a wonder we have anything left to catch.
an easy way for NC to ELIMINATE thousands of TONS of wasted bycatch would simply be to allow each commercial license holder a certain poundage of flounder,puppy drum, striper and such.
but a 5 fish a day limit or a 100 pound a day limit is simply stupid.
ya nail 300 ponds in the net but are only allowed 100 pounds so you toss 200 pounds of dead fish back or lose your boat,net,gear and get to go to court.
happens all the time here.
end of rant I guess.
I just wish some of the fisheries biologists actually ever caught a rockfish.

 

[jrock1062]

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The fact that others have to pay hundreds in fees is NO consolation to me. As far as I am concerned we went from the land of the "free" to the land of the "FEE". The BS about science is just business grabbing grants. Greed personified.

I know that I'm biting off my nose to spite my face but I didn't buy the license and have not fished since this requirement. I know that I would have spent many enjoyable hours fishing but I am so aggrivated that for now I quit. I know that I will breakdown and get back to fishing. I wish all who had any part in this license thing to have the same agrivation I am experiencing. I also know that they will not have the agrivation because it would mean that they have a conscience.

I could not have said it better NY is the fee state next it will be air if you breath more than the average person they will ask you for more money
I can not wait to leave this stateand head south and as bad as Bush was this joker and his cronies are worse

 

[Fly Rod]

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We will get nothing from these new fees. In mass. the money goes into the general fund. When and if NOAA takes over some of that money will go towards paying for the new huge NOAA building that has been built in my city and some will go to the PEW Foundation who are aganist not only commercial fishing but also recreational fishing too. Our monies will go aganist us.

I am not sure but, Florida that has had a salt water license and them monies went back into recreational fishing, so what happens in Florida in 2011?

 

[noworries79]

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What?!?! A New Yorker heading South? Ha ha just kidding Jrock.

 

[dingbat]

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Lots of complaining on this thread. Typically the biggest complainers are those that don't participate in the process then complain about the outcome.

How many of you have actually participated in the fisheries management process at least once in the past 3 years?

1. Are you a member and actively involved in a fisheries organization like the CCA, RFA, or any other local or national fisheries organization?

2. How many State or National Fisheries Management meetings have you attended in the last 3 year? They are generally open to the public for all to attend.

3. Have you activly participated in a public hearing that relates to a fisheries management proposal in the last 3 years?

 

[walt-oxie1]

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Lots of complaining on this thread. Typically the biggest complainers are those that don't participate in the process then complain about the outcome.

How many of you have actually participated in the fisheries management process at least once in the past 3 years?

1. Are you a member and actively involved in a fisheries organization like the CCA, RFA, or any other local or national fisheries organization?

2. How many State or National Fisheries Management meetings have you attended in the last 3 year? They are generally open to the public for all to attend.

3. Have you activly participated in a public hearing that relates to a fisheries management proposal in the last 3 years?

I have went to meetings, gave input, and made other contributions. I really have no complaints other than some groups trying to push personal agendas and passing the blame to others. My livelihood has been threatened by some of the groups you mention above. I don't hold any grudges though. I believe many, many compromises need to be made on both sides. All fisheries (recreational and commercial) need to be managed better to make sure the fish stocks are around in the future.

 

[levittownnick]

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Lots of complaining on this thread. Typically the biggest complainers are those that don't participate in the process then complain about the outcome.

How many of you have actually participated in the fisheries management process at least once in the past 3 years?

1. Are you a member and actively involved in a fisheries organization like the CCA, RFA, or any other local or national fisheries organization?

2. How many State or National Fisheries Management meetings have you attended in the last 3 year? They are generally open to the public for all to attend.

3. Have you activly participated in a public hearing that relates to a fisheries management proposal in the last 3 years?

A typical holier than thou response, but you are right, I attended none of those but I did write letters to my (so called) reps and to forums like this. Without credentials, attending those meetings is just waste of energy. Been there done that. This whole process was passed without a lot of publicity. I am sure that the special interest groups wanted it that way. I'm not sure that I'll get over this one, and that is not charastic of me. The whole thing stinks.