Maiden Voyage on new Glastron Skiflight w/ Evinrude 40

[rustof]

RIG: 15' 1969 Glastron Skiflight v142 with a 1969 Evinrude Big Twin 40hp 40543r

Ok,
I recently bought this boat at a garage sale for 400. It was dirty so after some cleaning and new spark plugs and l/u oil change it has performed fairly well. Or at least thats what I thought, but I geuss I'll really tell by the replies..., But I've had a problem with the engine stalling at wide open throttle, Its my thought that the carb was emitting too much gas, but I diddn't adjust it (didnt want to have the engine stall out on me while I tinkered, and I wasnt sure how good the batt was when I was out on the lake). Any suggestions? No tach on the boat but the spedo read 21 mph in perfectly calm waters. Not bad for a fishing runabout thats 40 years old.

Oh, a coulple of other questions, I was thinking of pulling a tube with it, would it be acceptable to tie the rope agisnt the transom, even though it will cross the path of the outboard if the tube rides to the opp. side? Also, the dash display has a red light labled "hot" next to the choke and ingition anyone know at what part this refferes to? I havent looked at the impeller (not that skilled in outboards) and I wonder if it blows will that light give me enough time to prevent serious damage?

 

[kbait]

Re: Maiden Voyage on new Glastron Skiflight w/ Evinrude 40

Dude, for $400, tube it up! Beat the sh*# out of it!

You cannot go wrong if it lasts 1.2 weeks!

 

[mafhuntfish]

Re: Maiden Voyage on new Glastron Skiflight w/ Evinrude 40

Hi - Once you get things straightened out - you're going to love that little boat!! That 40 will pull a tube, however don't expect too much performance. You can buy a short cable with snaps on the ends and a pully in the middle that the tow rope hooks to - this keeps the tow rope back away from your motor & allows it to swing from side to side. I would definitely change the impeller - cheap insurance for $20. Sounds like a carb cleaning & kit is in order also. Check out mine ..... 1969 V142 / 1980 Johnson 35

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsFazOGmeUk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X97VdlMj3qo

 

[kenmyfam]

Re: Maiden Voyage on new Glastron Skiflight w/ Evinrude 40

Sounds like a great deal. Use a harness for towing that will keep the rope away from the outboard. Give it a water pump service and a fuel system service. Change lower unit oil.
Enjoy.

 

[kenmyfam]

Re: Maiden Voyage on new Glastron Skiflight w/ Evinrude 40

This link should help you with the above

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=299680

 

[F_R]

Re: Maiden Voyage on new Glastron Skiflight w/ Evinrude 40

The "HOT" light comes on if the motor is overheated. Yeah, right. If it works, that is. And IF you are looking at it all the time, you might even notice it. Fact is, by the time it comes on and you see it, the game's over and the motor is burned up. It takes only a few seconds to do catastrophic damage if a pump suddenly quits at high speed. The only security against that happening is to make sure you have a good water pump, then relax and find something else to think about.

 

[rustof]

Re: Maiden Voyage on new Glastron Skiflight w/ Evinrude 40

Hey, thanks for the replies. I would have a look at that impeller but I'm not that mechanically gifted so I'd have to get the manual to sdo that, so that will have to wait until next week when I get paid. But it certinly is the next thing on my list to fix.

Btw, manhuntfish, the fishing rod setup looks nice, I'll try to install a similar system, as that boat really wasn't set up nicly for fishing, no livewells, no place for rod and tackle storage...

Also, one more quick question, its already nearing october, anyone when I should put it up for the season in Kansas, the middle of the midwest? Oh, and when I changed to l/u oil it smelled like rotting eggs, it was a horrible smell, is that normal? No real milkyness or visible water or shavings just a greenish blue oil that smelled terrible.

 

[samo_ott]

Re: Maiden Voyage on new Glastron Skiflight w/ Evinrude 40

Green/blue and smells bad = good oil!

The stuff stinks. But if not milky, you're in good shape. Change it for the winter though and then next spring it'll be good to go...

 

[rustof]

Re: Maiden Voyage on new Glastron Skiflight w/ Evinrude 40

ok, well Ive got some bad news. I took it to the lake today for a short joy ride. Total time in the water, maybe 4 hours. Problems:

Found water in the inner bilge. These model boats have a inner chamber between deck and hull so it seals with 2 rubber stoppers. I had them in place, but after getting the boat out of the water I could empty about a pint to a quart or water from the inner bilge.

Engine still stalls. I intend to put a video on youtube that I shot while in operation. But the engine would rev to max rpm then back down (without noticable backfire or any wired engine sounds) suddenly and then pick back up to max rpm to repeat the proscess over and over again.

L/U gearcase oil is leaking from an aux hole in the l/u. It is not from a hole that you use to fill/replace the oil. It was a greenish white color and pretty thin consitancy. I'm thinking that I'll have to do a seal replacement, or maybe something more serious?

Other than that I will admit that I had a hell of a good time with that boat, Such a shame that I got it so late in the season...

 

[Les Robb]

Re: Maiden Voyage on new Glastron Skiflight w/ Evinrude 40

Depending on what you were doing, a pint to a quart of water from inner deck area isn't a big deal. The fluid leak, maybe a seal. As for the running it sounds like you could use a carb rebuild. Get your manuals and follow the directions and if you run into trouble ask for help. As mentioned don't trust the red idiot light. Put you new impeller in this winter before running it again.

Sounds like your just a little bit away from a lot of fun for little money compared to what a new boat & motor would cost.

Safe boating ya'll

 

[coolguy147]

Re: Maiden Voyage on new Glastron Skiflight w/ Evinrude 40

safe boating

 

[rustof]

Re: Maiden Voyage on new Glastron Skiflight w/ Evinrude 40

Ok,
So it has been a long time science my last post on my boat. I have ordered some parts on iboats and they finally arrived yesterday. I received :

impeller
carb rebuild kit
Lower unit seal kit
Seloc repair manual

I know the basics of mechanics, and was studding to be a mechanical engineer but only took about a year of those classes. anyway I have never taken a shop class or one on small gas engines, so I place my chances at around 50/50 of getting it right. But I only paid so little and I really want to find out what is in my engine and how it kept over 40 years. So I have read the manual on the operation ect. and thoes dealing directly with the parts I know I'm going to replace. I'm not cracking the powerhead because thats just a bit too daunting for me, but what other things would you recommend changing besides the carb and lower unit/impeller. I'd like to try to order them before I start re-assembly so I wouldn't have to do extra work.

One thing I was hoping to install would be a tach. Is having it installed normal on 40 hp outboards from 1969? I only ask because I don't know the complexity of the task and also, when I asked a local marine parts dealer for a water filter for my fuel line they looked at me like I was crazy when I told them the mtor I had. (I do understand why the confusion though, my external tank is removable and therefore there is no reason to assume condensation would accumulate and get water in the gas)

thanks in advance,

 

[samo_ott]

Re: Maiden Voyage on new Glastron Skiflight w/ Evinrude 40

There's no need to crack the powerhead! Re and re the carb and put the kit in. It will take you longer to re and re it then to rebuild it. You probably have to take the starter off (unhook the battery first).

The lower unit seal kit is averagely tricky but I have not done that model you have. The impeller is easy. Go slow and read the manual...

 

[rustof]

Re: Maiden Voyage on new Glastron Skiflight w/ Evinrude 40

Hey all,
Well, I have tried to disassemble my lower unit and I have hit a snag. Looking at my motor (an Evinrude with 40953R on the model no. plate -I looked that up online and was reported to be a 1969 40 hp. Reading in the SELOC manual it states that all Johnson OBs from 62-70 are electromagnetic shift) is NOT an electric shift. At least that is what I can tell after verifing that all electric shifts from that period have a generator (mine does not) and when disassembling a lower unit you disconnect shift wires, whereas mine has a shift rod. So, does that mean I have an older model? or is it possible to change out thoes componets on a '69 model. Btw, all of my information comes from a SELOC manual, and I have read things about their accuracy. So anyway, I'm following the directions for a manual shift from '62 and It seems to be working fine....so far.

One other thing: if it turns out that my unit is a manual shift would I then stop having to use the "type c"/"premium blend" gearcase lube?

Also, my carb rebuild kit arrived last week with a hole in the bag , I suppose some parts could have fallen out, but I wonder how good Iboats customer service is...

 

[rustof]

Re: Maiden Voyage on new Glastron Skiflight w/ Evinrude 40

...bump please....one bump only...

 

[lindy46]

Re: Maiden Voyage on new Glastron Skiflight w/ Evinrude 40

If your motor is a manual shift, then you would use the standard 90 weight "Hypoid" type gear oil. If it has a shift shaft with access to the shift rod linkage thru a small oval "window" on the leg of the motor, it is a manual shift. Before tearing into the lower unit, was the old oil milky when you drained it? If water is getting in, it could just be the nylon washers bad or missing on the drain and vent bolts. I'd try replacing those first and run it a bit and see how the oil looks. You said oil was leaking from an auxiliary hole in the lower unit. If you're referring to a small 1/8" hole, that is a drain hole which allows water and unburnt gas/oil (exhaust) residue to drain from the leg. That is perfectly normal. Your stalling problem could be a number of things. Could be a coil going bad and cutting out (check spark) or it could be the fuel pump starting to go. Or, yes, it could be the carb. You said the boat only goes 21mph - seems a little slow, so I would also check compression. If compression is bad, then nothing you do will make the motor run good.

 

[bktheking]

Re: Maiden Voyage on new Glastron Skiflight w/ Evinrude 40

My buddy next door, big twin 40 on a 15ft runabout, 23mph with 2 in the boat, these aren't speed demons, 21mph sound about right.

 

[Silvertip]

Re: Maiden Voyage on new Glastron Skiflight w/ Evinrude 40

You need to be aware that replacing a water pump impeller is no guarantee the engine will not overheat. That is just a water pump and it's job is to get cooling water to the engine. Other things can cause an engine to overheat. ignition timing and lean carburetion are two others. Make sure your overheat light is working by grounding the overheat wire at the sender on the engine. The surging (reving up and down) is a sure sign of fuel starvation (lean running) which will eventually kill and engine. Rebuild or replace the fuel pump and ensure there are no air leaks in the fuel lines. Make sure the fuel line itself is clear (no obstructions) and that the primer bulb in the fuel line is OK.

 

[rustof]

Re: Maiden Voyage on new Glastron Skiflight w/ Evinrude 40

Hello,
I just disassembled my water pump housing, and took out and replaced my impeller. I found standing water in/around the impeller. I could also smell the foul odor of gearcase oil, so I removed the plate that the impeller sits on, and remved the driveshaft. Then I dumped the water/oil mixture remaining in the l/u. My question; Is the main concern with water in the gearcase with corrosion? I mean, should I worry about other possible damage if water is in my gearcase instead of oil? I am asking because I plan on re-filling my gearcase with oil and taking it out this weekend, even though I know it still leaks. My assumption is that the oil will get mixed with some water, but there will still be enough to lubricate gears ect.

thanks for all the great replies.

 

[jeff_smith_0423]

Re: Maiden Voyage on new Glastron Skiflight w/ Evinrude 40

Don't run a leaky gearcase unless you absolutely have to (i.e. recovering your boat, motoring to a repair shop, etc). You're dumping gear lube in the water and exposing expensive bearings and gears to corrosion.