Rethinking Christmas consumerism

lowkee

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I woke up from the Christmas fraud about 10 years ago and educated my wife on it when we met. Funny how at an early age you figure out everyone around you has flat out lied to you about a person who never existed, only to continue the commercial aspect of the holiday just because everyone around you guilts you into exchanging crap and spending money you should be saving for stuff you actually need. So, for 10 years I've bought what i wanted as I wanted it, and other around me don't buy me crap I don't want with their money. I am even light many head-in-the-sand acquaintances as a bonus. I give to charity when I feel I should, not when I'm told to. Sadly, my family still struggles with my refusing to partake in the sham and I sometimes get a check in the mail to which gets a big VOID written across and shredded. I enjoy family and fun all year long, not a 'gift' and a well-wish one day in December.

I say happy holidays to people because it is fun to have a tradition of lights and trees and feasts. Why ruin it by lumping guilt, debt and lies into the mix?
 

SuperNova

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Like I said before, I'm not a scrooge and I like to give gifts just as much as the next guy....take that as you will;)......but I don't necessarily like feeling obligated to giving gifts and I don't want anyone to feel obligated to giving me a gift. But even the giving and receiving of gifts in and of itself is not the problem. It's the change in focus.....like you have to buy Christmas in order for it to happen. I mean, what if I don't buy a tree, don't buy lights, don't buy gifts....will Christmas still be special? What if nobody bought anything to help celebrate Christmas...what would happen? And maybe that statement is the root of the problem for me.....the things we used to use to help celebrate Christmas and show our Christmas spirit somehow became Christmas. Took it's identity, if you will. It's almost like we are worshipping a false idol. Suddenly it's not about looking out for your fellow man (or woman, Ladyfish), it's about getting stuff. Whether the stuff is for you or for you to give to someone else is inmaterial if you are fighting someone else for it. For a season that is supposed to be in celebration of the birth of a man who was epic in his ability to give for his fellow man(or woman, Ladyfish) it seems to me to have gotten awfully selfish and materialistic for the most part. And I'm just as guilty as anyone else. Except I won't fight you for that last hard to find "must have" on the shelf...I will gladly let you have it and smile.

I do want to say thank you to all who have chimed in...it's helping
 

JaSla74

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We've already spent too much.
 

puddle jumper

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SuperNova I know were you are coming from.

In our family if we want something we just go get it but we don't have expensive tastes. We payed for some repairs on my oldest sons truck (hes unemployed at the moment) for his Christmas and my daughter got a HD satellite receiver (on promo) because she had no TV signal. My youngest just got him self a ps3 with the money he saved from doing chores (shocked the crap out of me when he did that) so he will probably get some game gear.

My parent,s are getting a book from a good story teller in which the proceeds go to charity and my wife's parent,s are getting one of those scrolling electronic picture frames.

My wife an my self looked at each other and just said don't worry about it. We have more fun with the Christmas spirit than getting a present that you really don't need or want.

My favorite gifts come from the hart not the wallet.
 

rbh

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She loves tools. Can't keep her out of mine, their always disorganized.:D

Wives are worse than cats when it comes to tools, they may not know what they"re good for but they"re fun to play with. :D
 

puddle jumper

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Wives are worse than cats when it comes to tools, they may not know what they"re good for but they"re fun to play with. :D

I caught my wife out side one day using my new cordless drill to drill holes into the ground for planting seeds.:eek::p
 

DECK SWABBER 58

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Like I said before, I'm not a scrooge and I like to give gifts just as much as the next guy....take that as you will;)......but I don't necessarily like feeling obligated to giving gifts and I don't want anyone to feel obligated to giving me a gift. But even the giving and receiving of gifts in and of itself is not the problem. It's the change in focus.....like you have to buy Christmas in order for it to happen. I mean, what if I don't buy a tree, don't buy lights, don't buy gifts....will Christmas still be special? What if nobody bought anything to help celebrate Christmas...what would happen? And maybe that statement is the root of the problem for me.....the things we used to use to help celebrate Christmas and show our Christmas spirit somehow became Christmas. Took it's identity, if you will. It's almost like we are worshipping a false idol. Suddenly it's not about looking out for your fellow man (or woman, Ladyfish), it's about getting stuff. Whether the stuff is for you or for you to give to someone else is inmaterial if you are fighting someone else for it. For a season that is supposed to be in celebration of the birth of a man who was epic in his ability to give for his fellow man(or woman, Ladyfish) it seems to me to have gotten awfully selfish and materialistic for the most part. And I'm just as guilty as anyone else. Except I won't fight you for that last hard to find "must have" on the shelf...I will gladly let you have it and smile.

I do want to say thank you to all who have chimed in...it's helping
That's pretty much how I have felt about Christmas for quite awhile.
THANK YOU, for so eloquently putting it into words.
 

Vlad D Impeller

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My wife and I stopped giving gifts at Christmas and birthdays. We were not blessed nor cursed with children, between us we have six siblings, their spouses and a total of fifteen nieces and nephews, they used to cost us around 10K a year in gifts and cash.
My wife got extremely upset about four years ago at her side of the family, she felt that they were abusing our generosity and taking us for granted. We now split that money between St Jude Children's Hospital and a Veterinary Hospital that provides care for neglected and abused animals. I simply cannot explain how good it makes us feel in doing so.

Happy Christmas and a wonderful New year to you all.
 

Bucks45

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My wife's not like that at all. We don't buy each other anything for Christmas. We have a saying, "As long as we have EVERYTHING we need, and SOME of what we want, we're happy". There's no need to spend money on each other because of a holiday.
 

mike64

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Nova.... I call it "Christmas sensory overload"....

I like that! That's exactly how I feel. I swear the Christmas ads and music and decorations in stores started earlier than ever this year, like the day after Halloween. Probably because retailers were worried about having two horrible seasons in a row and wanted a head start. But jeez.... I enjoy the season, but after two solid months of getting it crammed down your throat it's a relief when it's all over.

Well, that sounded kinda scroogy, didn't it. Bah humbug ;)
 

DECK SWABBER 58

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I like that! That's exactly how I feel. I swear the Christmas ads and music and decorations in stores started earlier than ever this year, like the day after Halloween. Probably because retailers were worried about having two horrible seasons in a row and wanted a head start. But jeez.... I enjoy the season, but after two solid months of getting it crammed down your throat it's a relief when it's all over.

Well, that sounded kinda scroogy, didn't it. Bah humbug ;)
Way before Halloween at my local True Value store.:mad:
 

eaglejim

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Well with my wife and my self coming from large family's we stopped the gift giving years ago on my side and once I told my sisters not to buy us gifts that we lived in different States and we did not know what they liked and the same for them they were ok with that,wife side not the case this is the first year that her younger sister called and asked what we thought about no gift giving,I told what took them so long(it actually took unemployment,and lose of a house,and a lose of a lot of money she loaned to a family member)
 

alumi numb

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can't sleep so here i am and will pay for it.
get out there and buy so you help the economy!
think about all the chinese that will be out of work if you don't.:rolleyes:
 

HVSTRINE

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Wow, we love to give gifts to our family \, especially the kids. My wife just picks up a little this-n-that all year when she finds a deal and avoids the big financial hit or the debt build up. The best part is the GIFT that we recieved and is available to all... our Saviour Jesus Christ, Merry CHRISTmas.:cool:
 

LadyFish

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I agree that the Christmas holiday has been destorted with commercialism in every respect however, I still find joy in giving. We've reduced in half, maybe more of what we used to spend and try to make our gifts thoughtful and meaningful.​

Regardless of all of the Christmas hoopla, this time of year serves to remind me of what I'm thankful for; family, friends and sharing time together. It also makes us reflect on our childhood and memories of past holidays, pray for the less fortunate, connect with people we don't usually make time for, remember our troops and their families, and those who are alone in this world.​

If we can manage to avoid the commercialism without loosing the spirit of Christmas then we all come out winners.​
 

WIMUSKY

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And what is the real meaning of Cristmas? I am a Christian and know when Christ was born and it wasn't the 25th of Dec. or was it? I'm confused.

The best part is the GIFT that we recieved and is available to all... our Saviour Jesus Christ, Merry CHRISTmas.:cool:

The "Reason for the Season"......

Lately, the wife and I try to not buy eachother gifts(I better buy a little something tho, otherwise I will be in the doghouse) and use that money to buy something that we really need. Maybe a refrig., cooking stove whatever(by no means does this happen every year). We just have a 13 year old daughter and she gets spoiled. Although, unlike alot of kids, she hardly asks for anything(whats wrong with this kid?). I do think it's very important to buy for the kids. How many of us still remember what an awesome time Christmas was as a kid. I believe all kids should be able to experience that. At our local church, that we attend, they have tags for kids on a tree. These are for needy kids in the area who's faimilies don't have the means to buy presents. We always grab a tag, usually for a teenager since they are the ones that are left out the most, and purchase what they have requested. You'd be surprised, some just want a winter coat.....
 

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Sorry guys, I edited out the last 9 posts they were unecessary.

Please remain civil to eachother and respectful of the diverse culture that makes up this great country.
 

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