The Absolute Best Engine Ever put in an Automobile

alangf

Petty Officer 2nd Class
Joined
Apr 12, 2009
Messages
105
Re: The Absolute Best Engine Ever put in an Automobile

Hands down its the small block chevy motor,It started in the late 50's with the 283ci and didnt change much till the early 80's,and to this day its still growing.
Actually, the 265 of 1955 predated the 283 which was introduced in 1957. Chevrolet 's first V8 was actually made in 1917 although there were few built.
 

Rancherlee

Chief Petty Officer
Joined
Jun 6, 2006
Messages
621
Re: The Absolute Best Engine Ever put in an Automobile

FORD 300 I6.........

Too bad they killed in 97' in the last stages of planing, they wanted to shorten the hood on the 97' model and the 300-6 was too long so they came out with the 4.2L V6 which was a horrible replacement.

The 300-6 was going to get an upgrade to cross flow head which would have really helped its performance instead of having both the intake and exhaust on on side hampering the ports.

We have a few in our family yet that have 300,000+ miles on them, and one that made 232hp/343tq on an engine dyno with a few mods, 300#+ of torque from idle to 4500rpm works great on a mud truck.
 
Joined
Sep 5, 2007
Messages
1,790
Re: The Absolute Best Engine Ever put in an Automobile

I had a 78 ford f100 with the I 6 as I said but what really proved to me how solid this engine is was when I saw them in heavy 60 passinger school buses run for 10 years making heavy runs and give little trouble. I never saw one of them blow up and I saw hundreds of them.
 

itsaboattime

Senior Chief Petty Officer
Joined
Jul 4, 2007
Messages
791
Re: The Absolute Best Engine Ever put in an Automobile

4.0 6 cyl in Jeep products from late '80's until today. Sadly, it is being phased out.<br /><br />Runner up: the 225 slant 6 from Chrysler Corp. especially before the primitive anti-pollution plumbing of the '70s was added.<br /><br />As you can see, I'm into longevity!<br /><br />Jinx

Sorry jinx, The 225 slant 6 was the best engine ever made, hands down. Had on in a '72 duster that had over 400,000 miles on it when the car completely rotted away.

Runner up, Ford's 302. Still have a 94 F150 with 398,000 miles on it. Daily driver full of tools.
 

AZSenza

Chief Petty Officer
Joined
Mar 11, 2008
Messages
521
Re: The Absolute Best Engine Ever put in an Automobile

The Cummins Turbo Charged Line 6 Diesel...Best engine ever put in a light duty pickup. second best...The small block chevy has had an impressive run with few design changes and will make as much horsepower as you have money to upgrade and parts are plentiful and cheap.
 

JB

Honorary Moderator Emeritus
Joined
Mar 25, 2001
Messages
45,907
Re: The Absolute Best Engine Ever put in an Automobile

I used to carry my Johnson JW-13 3HP in the trunk. Does that qualify as putting it in a car?? :)
 

Tail_Gunner

Admiral
Joined
Jan 13, 2006
Messages
6,237
Re: The Absolute Best Engine Ever put in an Automobile

Sorry jinx, The 225 slant 6 was the best engine ever made, hands down. Had on in a '72 duster that had over 400,000 miles on it when the car completely rotted away.

Runner up, Ford's 302. Still have a 94 F150 with 398,000 miles on it. Daily driver full of tools.

I agree on the slant 6...a very overlooked engine...sr 22 from toyota.... id be willing to bet the ford 4.6 is going to make its mark in histroy..;)
 

JJS1

Seaman Apprentice
Joined
Feb 13, 2009
Messages
35
Re: The Absolute Best Engine Ever put in an Automobile

A buddy of mine had a Dodge Dart with the slant 6.
It used so much oil that he used to go down to the local "Grant's" store and buy "detergent" oil in 5 gallon containers. He never did kill that engine.
 

jkust

Rear Admiral
Joined
Aug 2, 2008
Messages
4,942
Re: The Absolute Best Engine Ever put in an Automobile

I Suggest the GM 3800 V6. It is on the Ward's list of 10 best engines of the 20th century and I happen to have an L67 Series II supercharged version. All cast iron, no high tech components or extra valves. Just pure Detroit muscle and reliability. 240HP @ 5200 rpms /280lbs @ 3200 rpms translates into quick, powerful and fast large vehicles but good mileage.
 

LTDan440

Cadet
Joined
Apr 8, 2008
Messages
13
Re: The Absolute Best Engine Ever put in an Automobile

Mopar /6
Mopar small blocks
Mopar big blocks
Mopar Hemis (including the modern ones)

youre either with us or behind us

runners up-the Buick 3800 V6, the Gen I Chevy small block V8 and the modern LS1. Ford has never built a decent engine except for the 300 I-6.
 

Chevelle Kid

Cadet
Joined
Mar 30, 2009
Messages
10
Re: The Absolute Best Engine Ever put in an Automobile

Small Block Chevy all the way. I have one in my Chevelle and two going into my boat. Up next for me is the Ford 2.9 and 4.0 motors. I've owned both and they're indestructible if you keep oil in them, my old Bronco II had 350,000 before the tranny and body disintegrated...lol


Ben
 

pcrussell50

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Sep 21, 2008
Messages
296
Re: The Absolute Best Engine Ever put in an Automobile

it's funny, (almost), how almost every engine mentioned is:
1) domestic
2) old

item (1) is worriesome because it shows that we as a nation are not knowledegeable enough about engines to size ourselves up against the competition

item (2) is worriesome for the same reasons item (1) is, plus it shows we are unable to accept something new that's better. I would think it's better to be flexible and right, than loyal and wrong.

I know I painted with a broad brush. I know for a fact that some of you real gearheads know what I mean and are thus, not insulted.

-peter
 

pcrussell50

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Sep 21, 2008
Messages
296
Re: The Absolute Best Engine Ever put in an Automobile

sorry for my rant. this is supposed to be a lighthearted thread about car engines on a boating forum.

I sometimes let my commited "gearheadedness" get the better of me.

-peter
 

sschefer

Rear Admiral
Joined
Nov 13, 2008
Messages
4,530
Re: The Absolute Best Engine Ever put in an Automobile

sorry for my rant. this is supposed to be a lighthearted thread about car engines on a boating forum.

I sometimes let my commited "gearheadedness" get the better of me.

-peter

Yep, I agree, I suspect it's what we grew up with and are familiar with that makes these engines greatest and that's o.k. I never really believed that a Wankel rotary engine worked the way they said it did and was absolutely freaked when I saw one steadily cranking out 10,000 RPM's under load.

Potentially that could still be one of the greatest engine designs ever.
 

reelfishin

Captain
Joined
Mar 19, 2007
Messages
3,050
Re: The Absolute Best Engine Ever put in an Automobile

Yep, I agree, I suspect it's what we grew up with and are familiar with that makes these engines greatest and that's o.k. I never really believed that a Wankel rotary engine worked the way they said it did and was absolutely freaked when I saw one steadily cranking out 10,000 RPM's under load.

Potentially that could still be one of the greatest engine designs ever.

The problem with a rotary is repair and overhaul. changing Apex seals is a major hassle.

I gauge a good engine by how far it will go without an overhaul, how good it is on fuel and what sort of torque it makes. All the horsepower in the world makes no difference if you can't make some low end torque, especially when towing.

I've tried several import trucks, all failed miserably. I've consistently run my Ford Rangers and F150s for well over 250,000 miles without overhaul.
The best trucks I've owned have been inline 6 cylinder powered, hands down.
My 1966 Chevy C30 with a 298 I6, (A bit hard on gas but the factory 3.82:1 gears had a lot to do with that, I ran it for 244,000 miles before buying a Dodge with a 225 Slant 6, which ran for 5 years and a little over 200,000 miles, then a 1984 Ford 150 with the 300, which ran for 265,000 when I traded it in for a 1992 with the same motor which I kept for 165,000 miles.
None ever had any engine issues, none ever needed an overhaul.

The only truck I had in which I needed to replace an engine in was my 1983 Chevy C10, which dropped an exhaust valve at 44,000 miles, on a 305 engine.
(I had a few other Chevy V8's with engine issues, but mostly valve train noise and oil leaks).

I had a Toyota p/u, with the 22RE engine, it lost a motor at 11K, and again at 24K, and one at 55k, I gave up at that point and sold it. I had an axle break on a Mazda pickup, parts availability issues on my Land Cruiser, so much so that it sat for a month when I couldn't find a carburetor for it when the throttle shaft broke off at 68k. It was a great truck when it ran, but it broke down all the time, it was always something, it was the same way with my 1988 Toyota p/u, if it wasn't the engine, it was the trans, or transfer case, or the A/C, that truck was never right, from day one. It seemed like I spend 3 years fighting with Toyota to get one thing or the other fixed right.

Problems like that pretty much cured me of ever buying another foreign vehicle, I don't want a foreign engine in my American car either.

I was looking at a new Ranger, but since they dropped the only good engine they made, the 3.0L, and the 4 banger is Mazda, I gave up on that idea and have been searching for a clean older E or F150 with the 300 I6.
 

pcrussell50

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Sep 21, 2008
Messages
296
Re: The Absolute Best Engine Ever put in an Automobile

I gauge a good engine by how far it will go without an overhaul, how good it is on fuel and what sort of torque it makes. All the horsepower in the world makes no difference if you can't make some low end torque, especially when towing.

and there you have it...

i gauge an engine by how "racy" it is right off the showroom floor. trucks are what's important to reelfishin. to me, on the road-race course, all the torque in the world won't help me when someone with more power kills me out of the corners and down the straightaways. i enjoy racy handling and acceleration. crappy truck handling bores me silly. [sure, i tolerate them when i have to tow my track car or haul stuff i can't carry in my car]. some pilots like freighters, some like fighters... yadda, yadda, yadda. the requirements of a truck motor are different than the requirements of a sports car or race motor.

these differences are why this question is really unanswerable.

but it's still fun trying :)

fwiw, since this is a boating forum, my two boats are so small and light, i really don't even need a truck to tow them. a car with a hitch is plenty.

-peter
 
Top