1973 Starcraft Holiday - To Gluvit or not to Gluvit

lakelover

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Re: 1973 Starcraft Holiday - To Gluvit or not to Gluvit

How many of you guys have replaced your vintage steering with Teleflex?

I haven't got that far yet, but I have purchased a Teleflex rack system. Only reason I went with rack instead of rotary is that I read somewhere that rotary tends to wear out faster, & I have room for the rack.
 

Catfishmonkey

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Re: 1973 Starcraft Holiday - To Gluvit or not to Gluvit

How much did you get the rack steering for? I am assuming you got it with a new steering wheel?
 

lakelover

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Re: 1973 Starcraft Holiday - To Gluvit or not to Gluvit

How much did you get the rack steering for? I am assuming you got it with a new steering wheel?

I paid $119 for the steering setup, and got a steering wheel for $28, both amounts include shipping. A rack setup for your boat will probably be a little more as the cable will probably have to be longer. My Jet Star is 15' long.
 

Catfishmonkey

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Re: 1973 Starcraft Holiday - To Gluvit or not to Gluvit

My boat is also 15 feet long. Sounds like quite the deal you got. Do you mind if I ask where you got the system and steering wheel from?
 

lakelover

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Re: 1973 Starcraft Holiday - To Gluvit or not to Gluvit

I sent you a PM.
 

Catfishmonkey

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Re: 1973 Starcraft Holiday - To Gluvit or not to Gluvit

Hey everyone,

The boat is coming along pretty decently. Gluvited, and Jb welded, as well as painted the inside of the boat (will post tons of pictures when I develop my film...old school, no digital camera). Anyhow, got a teleflex steering system. The first thing I need to do is take out the old steering wheel and such. Any tips on how to do this most effectively...looks a bit daunting.

Secondly, it seems that I might not have the clearance I need to put the steering wheel in. Similar to Lakelover's problem:
steering.jpg

I was thinking of putting a couple of circular pieces of exterior plywood in front of the dash, behind the steering wheel in order to basically bring the dashboard up 1.5 inches or so. Think this would work. I know Teleflex has this 20 degree wedge kit, but was wondering if that would be necessary or even be sufficient to fix my problem. Thinking I could basically make the same thing somehow out of wood. Any thoughts?
 

ezmobee

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Re: 1973 Starcraft Holiday - To Gluvit or not to Gluvit

I had the same issue on my Jupiter. A teleflex wedge kit solved it. I also replaced my dash panel wood with a PVC trim board from Lowes. Very easy to work with and will never rot. If you have trouble getting your wheel off, loosen the nut and them whack on it with a hammer. Keeping the nut on prevents you from b__ching up the threads :p
 

Catfishmonkey

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Re: 1973 Starcraft Holiday - To Gluvit or not to Gluvit

Ok. Would like to try to find it local so I can get it immediately, but is this the kind of thing you would have to order and get through the mail?

So you would loosen that one nut behind the steering just a bit, but not take it off...then hit the shaft of the steering wheel to get it off?
 

Catfishmonkey

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Re: 1973 Starcraft Holiday - To Gluvit or not to Gluvit

...how would you start to go about it...from working on the nut behind the dash...or by taking off the metal 'hubcap' looking thing on the front of the steering wheel?
 

Bob_VT

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Re: 1973 Starcraft Holiday - To Gluvit or not to Gluvit

You have to remove the wheel centercap (plasic or metal depends on the wheel) to get to the nut.

First take the nut off then screw it on until the threads are even with the inside of the nut........ place a block of wood in the nut and while you are pulling on the wheel give that nut a rap and the wheel should slide up....... remove the nut and wheel.

Then the plastic cap will come off and expose the mounting
 

starcrafter65

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Re: 1973 Starcraft Holiday - To Gluvit or not to Gluvit

I used interlux brightsides, self etching primer, stripped and scrubbed my boat and got this:

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That was after the first day out - after yesterday my Holiday is gonna be a bare naked lady soon. The brightsides STINKS as far as I can see - scratches easily.

I used the same combo on my last boat - and got the same results!

You can see how much I prepped in my thread- I have no idea what went wrong - the self etch primer which was big bucks has no bond!

Keep us up to speed with pics!
 

Catfishmonkey

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Re: 1973 Starcraft Holiday - To Gluvit or not to Gluvit

Would you just use a flathead screwdriver to get that metal cap off of the wheel. Also, when you say put the block of wood in the nut, do you mean drill a hole in the wood and hammer the wood block onto the nut, or just place the wood block on top of the nut and then give it a wack (towards the bow) while pulling the wheel in the opposite direction towards the stern?

Yeah, well after hearing how much that brightside scratches (and realizing how much it would cost me) I decided to only keep the one non-returnable quart I bought for the top of the deck; but the majority of the paint that is going on the boat is going to be this new modified epoxy stuff by Benjamin Moore called "General Coatings Modified Epoxy Enamel"...I love the word "Epoxy" when it comes to boats (it sounds so safe ;) so I decided to take a chance on it for the team...I will be painting the interior with it, as well as the white part of the bottom of the boat. Hopefully soon i can finish this thing...and get you all the pictures that I have stored on my old school camera scanned and ready for you all to see. Just picked up a 1988 Evinrude 48 special for the boat yesterday; starts up like lightening...fingers crossed it works well on the lake. Really anxious to see how everything is going to look (and run), but I certainly have a couple more weekends ahead of me before that happens. Stay tuned...I decided to put a few unique personal touches on the boat that I am sure you guys will like...just need to get going on them! Let's keep our fingers crosses.

Thanks for the tips guys,
 

CheapboatKev

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Re: 1973 Starcraft Holiday - To Gluvit or not to Gluvit

On the wheel..

Just back the nut almost all the way off..Then get a block of wood, simply hold it on top of the nut with your left hand, hammer in the right...bang, pull, bang pull..

There will be a shaft key on the column, dont loose it..

I actually had to resort to a 4 leg gear puller to get mine off..
 

ezmobee

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Re: 1973 Starcraft Holiday - To Gluvit or not to Gluvit

I love the word "Epoxy" when it comes to boats (it sounds so safe ;) so I decided to take a chance on it for the team...

I don't know, I painted mine with Easy"poxy" and my bottom looks like starcrafters :mad:
 

Catfishmonkey

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Re: 1973 Starcraft Holiday - To Gluvit or not to Gluvit

Yeah, I guess I was going to go with the all popular Z22 stuff, but I just on a whim at the last second went with this "modified epoxy stuff" (just as reasonably priced as the Z22 stuff). Not sure how it will turn out, just felt like taking a chance on that day.
 

Catfishmonkey

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Re: 1973 Starcraft Holiday - To Gluvit or not to Gluvit

Hey guys,

Well, I've been able to make a lot of headway on the boat. Looks great. Got a whole role of film I am dedicating to the boat; almost done, so get ready to see a load of great shots. Anyhow, just trying to get you guys' opinions about this: I have a 48hp Evinrude Special 2 cylinder for this 15 foot Holiday; the motor is said to be 181lb., but it might be a bit heavier than that since the pistons look a bit larger than normal; lets say 200 lbs. just for kicks. Now the boat is rated for up to 50hp, but I was wondering if I should rig the two batteries (trolling and starting) in front of the boat; I fear putting them over in the back, will all that weight (in addition to the 6 gallon gas tank I got back there). Should I put them in the front. I should mention, I have to pedestal seats near the front steering console, so two fishermen sitting up there and being the main occupants might also be something to factor in. What do you guys think?

M
 

Catfishmonkey

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Re: 1973 Starcraft Holiday - To Gluvit or not to Gluvit

Do you think moving both batteries up front, at the bow, would be overkill? Figuring I leave the 6 gallon gas tank in back.

M
 

sprintst

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Re: 1973 Starcraft Holiday - To Gluvit or not to Gluvit

I used the Interlux VC performance epoxy on the bottom and love it. You can't barely scratch the stuff as it's as hard as hell.
 
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